Bob Arum is a genius.

[HeGotPacProblem]

Why is a cut-off necessary....in random blood testing? I don't get that. You don't think that's a little su****ious?

PAC said it weakens him and said the same thing after losing to Morales so no its not a Floyd excuse.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...is-blood-drawn

[travestyny]

Yes I agree with that. I agree that Pacman should have made the fight happen with May before he re upped if Arum was the only problem Mayweather had.

So what's your gut feeling? Do you think it's ever gonna happen?

My gut tells me no. But maybe it's good that Mayweather has set his last fight. That might convince Arum that it's time and also may convince Mayweather to see that his legacy does take a hit if the fight doesn't happen, and they just get it done. It could be the final fight for both.

That would be cool, except which ever side loses will be clamoring for a rematch. lol Then the ***** Pacroid war will live forever ;P

Actually, when it's all said and done, 25 years from now, I think there will be mutual respect on both sides. We'll have to go through all those shows with Pac and Mayweather sitting together talking all buddy buddy like Leonard and Duran, for crying out loud.

[luisivich]

The 40 mill that would have been more than he had ever made?

The 40 mill that seemed to be an afterthought when he was saying he'd be willing to give all proceeds to charity?

Hmmmmmm.

pacquiao at that time was p4p no 1 and was considered fighter of the last decade.
if manny offered floyd 60 million the most floyd would would have ever made. would floyd accept that offer if they are predicting a 200 million revenue?

would floyd then ask for a revenue split so he could benefit for an upside if the fight fared much better.

the 40 million offer from floyd is acceptable only to biased fans that says that it is the most that manny has ever received forgetting the fact that it is also the most that floyd will recieved.

also you must put your narrative in the proper context. manny said that he'll give the money to charity when floyd said that manny just wanted the fight because of his tax problem(another alibi not related to boxing).
isn't it bothering you that you are defending floyds alibis of not fighting manny while manny is calling floyd out?

[HeGotPacProblem]

So what's your gut feeling? Do you think it's ever gonna happen?

My gut tells me no. But maybe it's good that Mayweather has set his last fight. That might convince Arum that it's time and also may convince Mayweather to see that his legacy does take a hit if the fight doesn't happen, and they just get it done. It could be the final fight for both.

That would be cool, except which ever side loses will be clamoring for a rematch. lol Then the ***** Pacroid war will live forever ;P

Actually, when it's all said and done, 25 years from now, I think there will be mutual respect on both sides. We'll have to go through all those shows with Pac and Mayweather sitting together talking all buddy buddy like Leonard and Duran, for crying out loud.

No for me too. Floyd wants to keep his 0...he will fight safer fights. He will regret it a lot as he gets older because that would.be asked to death when he is retired and his legacy will always be questioned for not fighting Pac.

[megadeth]

PAC said it weakens him and said the same thing after losing to Morales so no its not a Floyd excuse.

http://www.examiner.com/article/the-...is-blood-drawn

Pac said that he took the blood tests the day of that fight. In various interviews during the Floyd negotiation, he said the same thing, saying he didn't want to take tests 1-2 days before the fight....then that date started moving further and further away until he was finallystopped at 30 days from the fight. He only changed that when it was shown that he was lying, and that he previously had blood taken for the Hatton fight at 24 days. That's when he moved to 24 days. IF it weakens him so much, how is he able to NOW take random blood tests from VADA? Sounds like an excuse is EXACTLY what it was and IF it was Floyd doing that it would CERTAINLY be called an excuse or ROADBLOCK!

[megadeth]

No for me too. Floyd wants to keep his 0...he will fight safer fights. He will regret it a lot as he gets older because that would.be asked to death when he is retired and his legacy will always be questioned for not fighting Pac.

I love how you guys say "safe fights" yet he has been fighting fighters at times that Pac ducked them or wouldn't. Pac CLEARLY ducked Mosley and a 154 Cotto. Floyd fought both of them. He fought Canelo at 152. Pac won't do that either. So please explain how they are "safe" fights when Pac wouldn't take them?

[luisivich]

Why is a cut-off necessary....in random blood testing? I don't get that. You don't think that's a little su****ious?

well let us put you in a certain circumstances. you'll have a particular exam that you had prepared for months. in the day before the exam where you are just relaxing and prepping your mind, then someone ask you to do a blood test and an eye test that needed some pupillary dilator. would you somehow lost your focus. we'll that's apparently what happen on pacquiao- Morales 1.
pacquiao's been on tv saying he'll not be giving blood too close to the fight after that fight.

cut-off is just writing on paper what the testing agency is doing on mayweathers fights of 2 weeks cut-off except on ortiz fight where there are 10 days cut-off

[travestyny]

pacquiao at that time was p4p no 1 and was considered fighter of the last decade.
if manny offered floyd 60 million the most floyd would would have ever made. would floyd accept that offer if they are predicting a 200 million revenue?

would floyd then ask for a revenue split so he could benefit for an upside if the fight fared much better.

the 40 million offer from floyd is acceptable only to biased fans that says that it is the most that manny has ever received forgetting the fact that it is also the most that floyd will recieved.

also you must put your narrative in the proper context. manny said that he'll give the money to charity when floyd said that manny just wanted the fight because of his tax problem(another alibi not related to boxing).
isn't it bothering you that you are defending floyds alibis of not fighting manny while manny is calling floyd out?

Pacquiao was only p4p #1 because Mayweather retired. Let's not get it twisted. I never thought Pac was worth 50/50 even. However, it was fair at that time to offer 50/50 because Pacquiao's star had risen while Floyd was away. That was the best chance of the fight taking place.

I also don't think it was fair to offer flat out 40 mill, but at least it was an offer. Is it better or worse than saying you will fight and give all the money to charity, when everyone knows that was bs as well? Pacuaio was probably never serious about that, like you guys said, but he did hint that money is not the main issue. But if that was the case, why not take the 40 mill and shut Floyd up in the ring? If he's gonna use "fighting for charity" just to call Floyd out, then damn, I wish he would have said, "You know what, just give me that 40 mill and let's do it."

[HeGotPacProblem]

I love how you guys say "safe fights" yet he has been fighting fighters at times that Pac ducked them or wouldn't. Pac CLEARLY ducked Mosley and a 154 Cotto. Floyd fought both of them. He fought Canelo at 152. Pac won't do that either. So please explain how they are "safe" fights when Pac wouldn't take them?

Stop answering a question with a question directed at Pacman ...you do realize that?

Pacman is a challenge to Mayweather as he is a fast southpaw so it's a safer fight. Regards to your logic, floyd ducked JMM because he set a higher CW?

[travestyny]

well let us put you in a certain circumstances. you'll have a particular exam that you had prepared for months. in the day before the exam where you are just relaxing and prepping your mind, then someone ask you to do a blood test and an eye test that needed some pupillary dilator. would you somehow lost your focus. we'll that's apparently what happen on pacquiao- Morales 1.
pacquiao's been on tv saying he'll not be giving blood too close to the fight after that fight.

cut-off is just writing on paper what the testing agency is doing on mayweathers fights of 2 weeks cut-off except on ortiz fight where there are 10 days cut-off

What you guys have to realize is that at one point Pac said he is unwilling to do testing within 30 DAYS of the test. Then he went and was tested with 24 days to go for the Hatton fight.

Then, when that came out, he went to arbitration and it was revealed that he refused to be tested with less than 24 DAYS to the fight, and Mayweather was asking for 14 DAYS.

I'm sorry, but I'm good to go after giving blood in a few hours. But I've never had to do blood testing for a fight, so that's neither here nor there. But if you say he can't agree to 14 DAYS BEFORE A FIGHT.......

Something is off there.