Comments Thread For: Chavez Jr: I Never Turned Down Fights, Just Extensions

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  • megadeth
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    #51
    Originally posted by Mr.Fantastic
    People wishing the death on Arum are ****** little kids. Some of the biggest fights in the sport's history have been done thanks to him.
    Same thing can be said for Don King! So what?? You act like they did it out of the kindness of their hearts or something. I guarantee you while they were making those fights, they were also raping the fighters for everything they could get from them.

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    • megadeth
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      #52
      Originally posted by turnedup
      Chavez made a lot and I do mean a lot of easy money because of Arum. If he thinks he can do better Arum should let him go to learn his lesson the hard way.
      Like Oscar, Floyd and Cotto?

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      • KnickTillDeaTh
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        #53
        Originally posted by Koba-Grozny
        No-one's forcing Chavez jr to do jack though. Nobody can. He coulda fought according to the big money two fight deal, the lesser, but still significantly large payday without the extension, fight a smaller name fighter for less or even refuse to fight at all and get sued for non-fulfillment. Hell if he's desperate, he could even buy his contract out.. it's been done before.

        I don't understand the argument, are you saying that promoters aren't allowed to use financial incentives to persuade fighters to do what they want?

        ****, and I thought I was the only hardcore socialist around here.
        You guys can be pretty thick sometimes. In the article Jr says that Arum has not made an offer with out an extension. Obviously other then the GGG offer. Which Jr will not accept because its the same purse he made for the second fight against vera with out PPV upside.

        So yes in my OPINION by not offering Jr a legit fight with legit pay with out an extension, Arum is trying to sit Jr out till hes desperate or softens his stance which Arum hopes will lead to Jr excepting a contract extension, for me it is trying to force Jr to resign. If Arum was being fair he would have offered Jr a fair purse with out an extension to fight GGG, not the same purse he made to fight vera. The purse didn't have to be 7mil, but more then the Martinez and vera purse for sure with PPV and no extension would have been fair. 4-5 mill purse for a fight with GGG would have been more fair then 2 mil.

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        • Citizen Koba
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          #54
          Originally posted by nubianpiye
          Why should he be forced to sign an extension to get a fight? That is a terrible practice and people support that support of corruption are fools. Chavez should be able to fight his last fight and leave! Imagine working for a store, but them refusing to pay unless you agreed to commit to them for another two years?
          Imagine you're far from an exemplary employee (but for some reason you bring in the customers - perhaps you're really good looking and the ladies keep coming in asking for advice on their plumbing) and you've decided to leave your job cos you don't really like it.

          Should your management be criticised if they offer you a pay rise to stay? Or even just ask you to work out your contract at normal rates? Your parallel is not really close anyway, but even within it's confines doesn't really make sense.

          Chavez jr. can just work out his contract and leave if that's what he wants. He's just being offered many millions of $s to do otherwise. Guys got a rough deal I guess.

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          • icha
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            #55
            i dont care if arum offers 100 mil, if chevez wants out he must let him go...

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            • HeroBando
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              #56
              Originally posted by Lou Cipher
              Point being that Arum didn't make Chavez rich he wouldve been rich no matter what because of his wins and name. You are probably related to Arum so die.
              Rich like Omar Chavez? Cause thats whar Julio would have been without the careful TR management

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              • HeroBando
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                #57
                Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                And by the way the non extension offer was the same purse Jr made to fight Vera the 2nd time. Just because you add PPV revenue does not make that a fair deal to fight GGG. Martinez was the most money hes made and the no extension offer was not better then that.
                But theres ppv upside. Canelo got a much smaller guarantee vs Angulo. Cotto got a much smaller guarantee vs Trout.

                A 2 fight extension under those terms is great business

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                • Dinamita 03
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                  #58
                  Chavez made 2 mill fighting Bryan ****ing Vera in an empty Staples Center a year ago.

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                  • Hougigo
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                    #59
                    So did arum lie about a fight with and without an extension

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                    • -MEGA-
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                      #60
                      Chavez jr is an overpaid fighter to begin with. No respect for the sport. He should take what he gets and thank his father and bob for it...

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