Should Froch be no. 1 if he beats Groves?

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  • Boxing Goat
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    #151
    Hell no. He doesn't jump ahead of a guy who owned him until the year of inactivity lapses.

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    • slimshandy69
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      #152
      Originally posted by LacedUp
      3-5 years ago.

      So let me ask you, how long is long enough? Will you always consider him champion if he keeps fighting every 18 months against limited opposition when someone else cleans up the rest?

      again you are **** on. That what i said to him. At what point of andre wards **** level of competition/inactivty since the froch win(which he only won by 2 rounds in America) factor in his opinion???

      When is wards next fight. What is he going to do...hes just pissing around with his magic juice, his rotator cuff and his legal issues. Bit what fight has he got next???

      Another Analogy would be for Novak Djokovic to become world number 1, school nadal(like he did recently), then only enter satalite and challenger tournaments for the next two years.And only do 5 challenger tournaments in a year...According to Dirk he would be qualified to be world number one in his "opinion"

      No logic...

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      • slimshandy69
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        #153
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat
        Hell no. He doesn't jump ahead of a guy who owned him until the year of inactivity lapses.
        He lost by two rounds and won the last 3 rounds and was coming on stonger...plus that was in Wards home country. Hardly a owning???

        Plus come saturday frch fought 5 times to wards twice with higher ranked opponenets. Since when does that make ward number 1???

        Horrible logic...as dirk says, only on NSB......

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        • Dirk Diggler UK
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          #154
          Originally posted by LacedUp
          3-5 years ago.

          So let me ask you, how long is long enough? Will you always consider him champion if he keeps fighting every 18 months against limited opposition when someone else cleans up the rest?
          So "Ward hasn't done that at all" changes to "3-5 years ago"....LOL. What are you even saying here?

          Enough with the hypothetical nonsense. Ward has had promotional issues and injuries. Limited opposition? He beat Rodriguez who had done just as much as George Groves before he got the first Froch fight so basically Ward is penalised in your eyes for dominating Rodriguez and Froch is moved up for struggling with Groves

          Embarrassing stuff.

          Also leads to another point - all this **** doesn't take into account performances. Ward has dominated everyone he's faced. Froch certainly didn't look like the "consensus no1 SMW" (LOL) in his last fight.

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          • LacedUp
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            #155
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Hell no. He doesn't jump ahead of a guy who owned him until 3 years* of inactivity lapses.
            Fixed it for you.

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            • B.U.R.N.E.R
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              #156
              Beat the man. Just beat him.

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              • LacedUp
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                #157
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                So "Ward hasn't done that at all" changes to "3-5 years ago"....LOL. What are you even saying here?

                Enough with the hypothetical nonsense. Ward has had promotional issues and injuries. Limited opposition? He beat Rodriguez who had done just as much as George Groves before he got the first Froch fight so basically Ward is penalised in your eyes for dominating Rodriguez and Froch is moved up for struggling with Groves

                Embarrassing stuff.

                Also leads to another point - all this **** doesn't take into account performances. Ward has dominated everyone he's faced. Froch certainly didn't look like the "consensus no1 SMW" (LOL) in his last fight.
                Of course I was referring to recent events - as I have said multiple times in this thread.

                Couldn't care less about him being tied up in his own filth, that doesn't justify him getting fantasy points for something he's not doing.

                Rodriguez is not as good as Groves, don't be silly. Guy couldn't even make weight He also hasn't beaten as good fighters as Groves has.

                That might be true, but Froch still won.

                And to the question AGAIN, how long is long enough?

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                • slimshandy69
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                  So "Ward hasn't done that at all" changes to "3-5 years ago"....LOL. What are you even saying here?

                  Enough with the hypothetical nonsense. Ward has had promotional issues and injuries. Limited opposition? He beat Rodriguez who had done just as much as George Groves before he got the first Froch fight so basically Ward is penalised in your eyes for dominating Rodriguez and Froch is moved up for struggling with Groves

                  Embarrassing stuff.

                  Also leads to another point - all this **** doesn't take into account performances. Ward has dominated everyone he's faced. Froch certainly didn't look like the "consensus no1 SMW" (LOL) in his last fight.
                  Done just as much as groves???Hardly, Degale and glen johnson are better wins than Rodriguez....

                  Also groves actually makes the weight. Did even count as a super midleweight fight????

                  DAWSON is failed light heavyweight that moved down...

                  its terrible reading...

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                  • sicko
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                    #159
                    *** NO! The Rules don't change only to work for the fighters you like more.

                    Ward DOMINATED Froch, for Froch or his fans to even try to run around claiming he is #1 at 168 if he beats Groves would be LAUGHABLE!

                    You want to be #1...TRULY #1 and not only #1 in Nottingham LMFAO why not just go BEAT WARD!


                    The Game Is Checkers Not Chess...THE KING REMAINS THE KING until someone Knock Him Off His Throne! Inactivity because of a Promoter Dispute does not Knock You Off Your Throne.
                    Last edited by sicko; 05-28-2014, 02:50 PM.

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #160
                      I am done trying to reason with complete ******ity.

                      If you guys want to embarrass yourselves by calling Froch the "number 1 Super Middleweight" when he was thoroughly beaten by another man who still campaigns in the same division, then go ahead.

                      Just cringeworthy.

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