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  • #61
    Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
    Money governs the way everything is run, you are naive to think otherwise. I want to see the best fights, but if they don't make money for all the people involved they aren't going to happen. Its the way the world works, I would absolutely love to watch the best fights but the way boxing is if you lose now your market value decreases. Boxing should follow the UFCs business plan where a few losses don't really mean anything on a boxers record because for a 10 fight stretch they are fighting the very very best in the division but boxing puts emphasis on losses in a way that other sports dont.

    An athletes career often lasts about 10 years maybe less due to injury, they often have little qualifications. They need to make as much money in that period as possible thats why the economics of sport is so skewed.


    UFC purses are comically low compared to that of top flight boxers.

    MMA has a middle class, though, and boxing doesn't. you can chug along in MMA, whereas boxers are often either millionaires, or have second jobs.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by JDD1 View Post
      instead of posting on NSB, go become a pro boxer. WHen you do, live by this credo.

      So sad that this is someone who calls himself a boxing fan.
      So you dont want the best fights and accept the sport as it is with no complaints, ok no problem.

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      • #63
        Some dumb pansy motherf**kers on this site, like that flabby arms fool JSDF26 berating Maidana for ''ducking'' Thurman... he even said ''don't duck Thurman Maidana'' after Maidana beat Broner.. yeah Maidana should fight for some chit purse instead of getting the payday of his life against Mayweather

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        • #64
          Originally posted by RAV3N View Post
          So for all those so called "boxing fans" who think that a boxer's bank account and safety is more important then the best fighting the best please go and do us all a favour and watch a safe sport like golf.

          A true boxing fan should want the best fights imo, I see too many posters on this forum saying that boxing is a business first so fighters should be trying to earn money instead of fighting the best fights out there.

          Boxing is a combat sport, it isnt meant to be safe.
          This is not the Roman Coliseum. The Gladiator era has been over for centuries.

          It is called prized fighting for a reason. Sometimes you have to save the fighter from himself so he can live and fight another day.

          Unless you are a sadist and like to watch people punched to death or into disability

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          • #65
            Originally posted by RAV3N View Post
            So you dont want the best fights and accept the sport as it is with no complaints, ok no problem.
            Stop it my man. The best fights are not determined until after the fight is over, any real boxing fan knows this. Boxing fans care not just about the fights, but the well being of the men who fight.

            Your initial thread comment had nothing to do with the best fighting the best. It was one of those comments made by someone who thinks boxing is supposed to be 2 guys killing each other for your enjoyment. Thats why you have gotten so much backlash and are desperately trying to change the narrative.

            The reason you are not getting every fight that you want is because of the networks, not the fighters. WHen those fights dont happen, be a real fan and enjoy the truly good fights you get.

            This weekend, shawn porter elevated himself into the discussion of big ww fights. Bhop brought us a step closer to unifying the LHW championship. A real fan would be discussing these things rather than complaining about 1 or 2 fights that could've happened.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ryn0 View Post
              Money governs the way everything is run, you are naive to think otherwise. I want to see the best fights, but if they don't make money for all the people involved they aren't going to happen. Its the way the world works, I would absolutely love to watch the best fights but the way boxing is if you lose now your market value decreases. Boxing should follow the UFCs business plan where a few losses don't really mean anything on a boxers record because for a 10 fight stretch they are fighting the very very best in the division but boxing puts emphasis on losses in a way that other sports dont.

              An athletes career often lasts about 10 years maybe less due to injury, they often have little qualifications. They need to make as much money in that period as possible thats why the economics of sport is so skewed.
              I know money makes the world go round but speaking as a fan I would always like to see the best fighting the best, im not thinking as a promotor.

              It pains me to say that yes the UFC does have a better system where the best fighters in a weight class have to fight the other best fighters. I know its too late now but it would be great if boxing could do the same thing but have most of the money going to them.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by #1Assassin View Post
                nobody has ever said safety comes before making the best fights.

                floyd said a long time ago safety comes first in order to defend his style to people who were calling him boring, boring or not he indeed has the right to fight in whichever style he wants to. its his career the effects of which he will have to cope with for the rest of his life, like hopkins said "you dont want somebody else counting your money".

                he later did it to defend his decision not to fight anyone unwilling to go through adequate drug testing, again it has nothing to do with fighting the best, its about fighting on even terms which every fighter has a right to do.


                money on the other hand often comes before making the best fights, i dont like it any more than anyone else does but im reasonable enough to understand you cant hold it against some fighters. these are people who worked their asses of to get to this point, to put themselves in a position to be set for life which they have earned already.

                i like to see a young guy just try to make his mark in the sport and let the money come when it does. but to older fighters who have a limited time to make money, of course they should do whats right for them and their family. what kind of ****** expects a man to say "**** my kids education, joe six pack wants to see me fight .... instead". its not reasonable to expect someone to do that!

                again, im just as dissapointed when the big fights dont happen as anyone else. i do however understand that the people in that ring are just that, people. they fight for many reasons but making ends meet for their family obviously comes first and you cant blame them for that if you have an ounce of common sense in your body.

                be pissed at the network for not putting up the money, be pissed at the casual fans who dont know which fights are the meaningful ones causing the money to be in the wrong place. dont be mad at the fighter for being a man, because it doesnt make them lesser men to go for the money. on the contrary, a man looks after his family before anything which in this particular situation means go get that money.
                All the points you make are very true but I never said that they should make no money and F their kids education.

                They will still make good money if they fight the best opponents out there, the top fighters get paid very well for their fights.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
                  This is not the Roman Coliseum. The Gladiator era has been over for centuries.

                  It is called prized fighting for a reason. Sometimes you have to save the fighter from himself so he can live and fight another day.

                  Unless you are a sadist and like to watch people punched to death or into disability
                  I think he wants to insult Mayweather and went about it in an illogical manner.
                  the only person he could be talking about is May fighting Pac and that I guess Pac is the best, (while i understand the argument, you cant be considered the best when youre .500 in your last 4 fights) just stick with the traditional insults. Although your money shouldnt matter argument works against you, cause Pac turned down the last fight......OVER MONEY!

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by TOBYLEE1 View Post
                    This is not the Roman Coliseum. The Gladiator era has been over for centuries.

                    It is called prized fighting for a reason. Sometimes you have to save the fighter from himself so he can live and fight another day.

                    Unless you are a sadist and like to watch people punched to death or into disability
                    Well if your fighter is losing badly against his best opponent you always have the option of throwing the towel in.

                    Well arent all boxing fans sadists in some way, otherwise you wouldnt be watching.

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by RAV3N View Post
                      So you dont want the best fights and accept the sport as it is with no complaints, ok no problem.
                      are you 5 years old? whats so hard for you to comprehend?

                      every fan wants the best fights, some fans are just smart enough to understand there are other people than themselves involved. like the people fighting for example, a smart man understands their situation is different from his own. he understands that whats in his best interest as a fan isnt necessarily whats in the fighters best interest. a smart and reasonable man also realizes every man will do whats best for him and his family.

                      so what is it you dont get? is it the part where whats best for you isnt whats best for the fighter? or are you so damn ****** you expect a man to pass up on his kids college money in order to entertain a stranger who is rooting for him to get decapitated.

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