Boxing should come 1st not $$$ or safety

[RAV3N]

Try and see the perspective of a boxer...

You're in an extremely dangerous sport where you can die in the ring...

You have two options... get punched in the face for 500k or get punched in the face for 1million?

Which option do you choose?

I said it in my other post, I think it depends on your personality.

If I had the skills to be top 10 p4p I would try to be the best boxer I could.

People act like boxing is the only dangerous sport.

There is Rugby, NFL, mma, etc and these guys are expected to put their body and health on the line every time they go out there.

Why does boxing get a pass from some people?

[Robbie Barrett]

I said it in my other post, I think it depends on your personality.

If I had the skills to be top 10 p4p I would try to be the best boxer I could.

People act like boxing is the only dangerous sport.

There is Rugby, NFL, mma, etc and these guys are expected to put their body and health on the line every time they go out there.

Why does boxing get a pass from some people?

Have these sports got athletes, promoters, networks and sanctioning bodies dictating who fights who?

[RAV3N]

you're incredibly naive if you expect a fighter to put boxing ahead of his health, money for his family, etc.


you want people to die? be veggies when they're 45? that's what happens in boxing.

I think people are misunderstanding what I posted, I never said that safety meant nothing, I just said that the sport which is boxing should come first and the best fights should be made.

Where did I say I want them to kill each other with concrete gloves?

We expect rugby and NFL to smash each other causing serious injuries though.

[JDD1]

So for all those so called "boxing fans" who think that a boxer's bank account and safety is more important then the best fighting the best please go and do us all a favour and watch a safe sport like golf.

A true boxing fan should want the best fights imo, I see too many posters on this forum saying that boxing is a business first so fighters should be trying to earn money instead of fighting the best fights out there.

Boxing is a combat sport, it isnt meant to be safe.

instead of posting on NSB, go become a pro boxer. WHen you do, live by this credo.

So sad that this is someone who calls himself a boxing fan.

[BartBears]

Try and see the perspective of a boxer...

You're in an extremely dangerous sport where you can die in the ring...

You have two options... get punched in the face for 500k or get punched in the face for 1million?

Which option do you choose?

As a fan i just want to see best fight the best. Couldn't care less what the perspective of a boxer is. This guys are getting payed more than enough, money is just an excuse for ducking these days. This sport is ****ed with so called "fans" defending this ****.

[RAV3N]

I think the reason you have got quite a lot of negative responses is that you mentioned 'safety' and I don't think everyone understands, I see a lot viewed it as you implying safety shouldn't be a consideration. IN GENERAL - you are rarely going to see a fight not get made because a fighter on either side is worried about their 'safety' (publically anyway).

I say in general, there are exceptions but that's not a big or widespread problem IMO. If it's the fault of a fighter's team not letting him fight someone for safety reasons...well, then he is probably not deserving to be called the best, thus the best v best fight is a moot point.

Money, on the other hand, is definitely a problem in this sport in terms of match-ups...and of course, I think many would agree that the fights should come before the $$$, but unfortunately, as we all know...boxing is a business, that's the way it is.

Funnily enough, some fighters who don't want to get themselves into dangerous matchups are perhaps worried about their safety, yet if they get some ****** money figure to fight, they will do it.

So money is the big problem.

Well it seems that most people have misunderstood my post. Some think that I said they should be using knuckledusters and going unlimited rounds, which isnt the case.

Yes I agree that money is the main problem and some boxers or their team will think they will lose if they fight a certain fighter.

Im just suprised that a lot of people who posted put money before making the best fights, im dumbfounded.

[Ryn0]

Thanks for being presumptuous but you are wrong, you dont know anything about me or how boxing should be run for that matter.

When did I say that money isnt important? Obviously it is but it shouldnt totally govern the way the sport is run.

Sounds like you arent a true boxing fan, you like watching fighter's bank accounts instead of watching the best fights.

Go log off and join a golf forum, it would be more suited to your taste in sports.

Money governs the way everything is run, you are naive to think otherwise. I want to see the best fights, but if they don't make money for all the people involved they aren't going to happen. Its the way the world works, I would absolutely love to watch the best fights but the way boxing is if you lose now your market value decreases. Boxing should follow the UFCs business plan where a few losses don't really mean anything on a boxers record because for a 10 fight stretch they are fighting the very very best in the division but boxing puts emphasis on losses in a way that other sports dont.

An athletes career often lasts about 10 years maybe less due to injury, they often have little qualifications. They need to make as much money in that period as possible thats why the economics of sport is so skewed.

[#1Assassin]

nobody has ever said safety comes before making the best fights.

floyd said a long time ago safety comes first in order to defend his style to people who were calling him boring, boring or not he indeed has the right to fight in whichever style he wants to. its his career the effects of which he will have to cope with for the rest of his life, like hopkins said "you dont want somebody else counting your money".

he later did it to defend his decision not to fight anyone unwilling to go through adequate drug testing, again it has nothing to do with fighting the best, its about fighting on even terms which every fighter has a right to do.


money on the other hand often comes before making the best fights, i dont like it any more than anyone else does but im reasonable enough to understand you cant hold it against some fighters. these are people who worked their asses of to get to this point, to put themselves in a position to be set for life which they have earned already.

i like to see a young guy just try to make his mark in the sport and let the money come when it does. but to older fighters who have a limited time to make money, of course they should do whats right for them and their family. what kind of ****** expects a man to say "**** my kids education, joe six pack wants to see me fight .... instead". its not reasonable to expect someone to do that!

again, im just as dissapointed when the big fights dont happen as anyone else. i do however understand that the people in that ring are just that, people. they fight for many reasons but making ends meet for their family obviously comes first and you cant blame them for that if you have an ounce of common sense in your body.

be pissed at the network for not putting up the money, be pissed at the casual fans who dont know which fights are the meaningful ones causing the money to be in the wrong place. dont be mad at the fighter for being a man, because it doesnt make them lesser men to go for the money. on the contrary, a man looks after his family before anything which in this particular situation means go get that money.

[RAV3N]

Have these sports got athletes, promoters, networks and sanctioning bodies dictating who fights who?

No they dont but sometimes a fight can be made even if some of the powers to be are saying no, such as the recent canelo and lara fight.

And sometimes that stuff that you mentioned isnt even getting in the way, a fighter just clearly wants to duck someone.

[New England]

As a fan i just want to see best fight the best. Couldn't care less what the perspective of a boxer is. This guys are getting payed more than enough, money is just an excuse for ducking these days. This sport is ****ed with so called "fans" defending this ****.

incredibly naive.