All Access: Mayweather vs. Maidana - Episode 1

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  • 4Corners
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    #91
    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
    Go and watch his pad work for example in the build up for Ortiz compared to the build up for Canelo. The difference in speed, and all round sharpness is striking.

    Obviously he's still very sharp now but it's plain as day to see that he's much much much slower now in every area physically since 2011 which is understandable considering it was 3 years ago.
    Maybe the pad work, but in the ring he doesn't look much different.

    If anything, he's using his legs more now, and he looks better on the move then he did against Ortiz.

    I don't see a difference in the ring with his hand speed, or footwork, or defensive reflexes. If anything, I think he's looked quicker on his feet since Ortiz and Cotto.

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    • IMDAZED
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      #92
      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
      Just talked about "the guy" he beat the hell out of Victor Didn't mention him by name.
      I remember him doing the same thing with Garcia, calling him "that Puerto Rican kid from Philly." At least he remembers Castillo aka "Castillio"

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        #93
        Originally posted by 4Corners
        Maybe the pad work, but in the ring he doesn't look much different.

        If anything, he's using his legs more now, and he looks better on the move then he did against Ortiz.

        I don't see a difference in the ring with his hand speed, or footwork, or defensive reflexes. If anything, I think he's looked quicker on his feet since Ortiz and Cotto.
        That's just an example.

        I think you're just looking at the dominant performances and taking it as he's still the same guy.

        He's not, not even close.

        Obviously he's still very quick but I cannot understand how you can look at the two fight and say he's the same fighter.

        It's so obvious to me how much considerably slower he is in every area. Especially hand speed.

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          #94
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          That's just an example.

          I think you're just looking at the dominant performances and taking it as he's still the same guy.

          He's not, not even close.

          Obviously he's still very quick but I cannot understand how you can look at the two fight and say he's the same fighter.

          It's so obvious to me how much considerably slower he is in every area. Especially hand speed.
          Agreed. Getting back to my earlier point regarding Roy Jones, everyone thought he looked incredible against Ruiz but when you watched his performance (compared to years past) you could see he had slowed a ton.

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            #95
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            I remember him doing the same thing with Garcia, calling him "that Puerto Rican kid from Philly." At least he remembers Castillo aka "Castillio"
            Haha you know, he still sometimes calls him Castillio

            Floyd's just silly when he pretends he doesn't know these guys. It's pretty obvious to me he studies the sport and very thoroughly.

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              #96
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              I remember him doing the same thing with Garcia, calling him "that Puerto Rican kid from Philly." At least he remembers Castillo aka "Castillio"
              Him, Roger, and his father are very bad with names. He barely remembered Guerrero in a FightHype interview. They had to help him.

              And then he recently called Lara -- 'the cuban kid'... what's his name? that cuban kid? he can fight, he can fight!

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              • BennyST
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                #97
                El Chino is awesome. Really like him. He's such a calm, classy, classic underdog it's impossible not to dig him and hope for the best.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  That's just an example.

                  I think you're just looking at the dominant performances and taking it as he's still the same guy.

                  He's not, not even close.

                  Obviously he's still very quick but I cannot understand how you can look at the two fight and say he's the same fighter.

                  It's so obvious to me how much considerably slower he is in every area. Especially hand speed.
                  I don't know. I think you may be comparing his speed from different weight classes. That's where the differences lie. Not just with speed, but with power also.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    That's just an example.

                    I think you're just looking at the dominant performances and taking it as he's still the same guy.

                    He's not, not even close.

                    Obviously he's still very quick but I cannot understand how you can look at the two fight and say he's the same fighter.

                    It's so obvious to me how much considerably slower he is in every area. Especially hand speed.
                    Slower than he was against Cotto and Ortiz you mean?

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                    • takingaim
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Syf
                      What a suckass episode.. they did hardly anything with Maidana but show broner...
                      Maidana's kinda boring. Mayweather isn't much better though. These 24/7/All Access shows are a bit tiresome now really. Just the same thing over & over again, especially with Mayweather. All it is is showing how much money he spends & how 'flashy' his 'lifestyle' is. /yawn

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