All Access: Mayweather vs. Maidana - Episode 1

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  • MindBat
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    #71
    Originally posted by Syf
    something seems... different.. he seems to be working hard as usual but his mentality has to be on point to pull through the fire against the mentally grueling fight a Chino at his best can bring.

    his mental seems to be slipping a bit. How long can he keep his edge? Dude's getting older



    He always talks about he cant overlook an opponent ect ect... but I dont think his mental game is as sharp as it could be for this fight.

    and to me what makes him p4p best is his consistency. If that starts to erode..that will be the beginning of the end for Floyd.
    Being a gifted athlete helps. And inconsistency in any athlete usually leads to their slip and downfall.

    As talented as Floyd is, I believe he's well aware that as history has often proven, underestimating an opponent based on past performance and based on a majority consensus that the opponent is not as great or is weak, can certainly lead to the "Anything can happen" moment, and be the cause of the downward slide.

    If you've noticed, Floyd will give the opponent the benefit of the doubt, to assess the opponent's true ability as a fighter. Then he opens up on him at the sign of any weakness in his opponent's defense and minor mistakes.

    When the opponent can longer offer a challenge after several rounds, Floyd will coast to the UD and the win.

    That's based on my personal observations.

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    • radioraheem
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      #72
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      I don't think Maidana comes close to a prime Castillo but he won't be facing a prime Floyd either. This could end up being a long night for an aging fighter, especially since in spite of whatever he says, it'll be hard for Floyd to get up for him coming off a career high payday against someone who might turn out to be a legacy-sealing win.
      Floyd is too obsessed with staying at the top. He came into training camp already ready to fight. Getting up for a fight would be the last of his problems. Over-training is what might be a problem, but his father pays close attention to that. Whereas, Roger used to let him train like a mad man if he wanted. What can be a problem also is a lucky punch, or a freak accident/injury.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #73
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        Floyd is too obsessed with staying at the top. He came into training camp already ready to fight. Getting up for a fight would be the last of his problems. Over-training is what might be a problem, but his father pays close attention to that. What can be a problem also is a lucky punch, or a freak accident/injury.
        I typically agree would agree with that but you can't get up for all of them. Especially when you're a guy who is used to deciding when you want to fight. I do believe this Showtime contract, the one that seduced him with all of this cash, may come back to bite him in the ass.

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        • SweetPbfAli
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          #74
          I honestly turned it when they started talking about the cars ,money etc. It's so cliche at this point. I always tell people i'm a fan of Floyd Mayweather the boxer, but never care to hear him speak or anything else outside the ring.

          I feel 50 was right when he said "the plane has to wheels" referencing Floyd.

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          • 4Corners
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            #75
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Really? I've seen decline in speed and reflexes. And I wonder what he'll look like if he's forced to fight at a quicker pace than usual, which is what Cotto made him do. Except Cotto doesn't quite have great stamina.
            Since 2011??? I haven't. He didn't look particularly good against Ortiz, and had the "hardest" fight of his career since 2002 with Cotto. His legs looked better in 2013 then they did in 2011-2012. Perhaps he's just using them a little more now then he did with Roger.

            He looked elusive against Guerrero, and fought a great fight against Canelo.
            Last edited by 4Corners; 04-20-2014, 09:34 AM.

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              #76
              Originally posted by IMDAZED
              Really? I've seen decline in speed and reflexes. And I wonder what he'll look like if he's forced to fight at a quicker pace than usual, which is what Cotto made him do. Except Cotto doesn't quite have great stamina.
              He has declined a considerable amount since Ortiz.

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              • 4Corners
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                #77
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                He has declined a considerable amount since Ortiz.
                Really???

                I don't see it, but hey.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  I typically agree would agree with that but you can't get up for all of them. Especially when you're a guy who is used to deciding when you want to fight. I do believe this Showtime contract, the one that seduced him with all of this cash, may come back to bite him in the ass.
                  If he can get up for Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero, he can get up for Maidana. And then after Adrien Broner, aka the next Mayweather, just got a beatdown by Maidana, you think Floyd wants to be the second example? If there was a fight I would've believe he may not get up for, I'd choose Ortiz or Guerrero, and we saw what happened there.

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by 4Corners
                    Since 2011??? I haven't. He didn't look particularly good against Ortiz, and had the "hardest" fight of his career since 2002 with Cotto.

                    He looked elusive against Guerrero, and fought a great fight against Canelo.
                    He looked just OK to me against Guerrero but I attributed that to rust. And he had to move a lot more than he wanted to. I think that's part of why he was so displeased with that performance. Canelo didn't really apply pressure against him, which allowed Floyd to fight at an energy-saving, measured pace.

                    Nevertheless, I believe it's about more than that. I remember in the locker room before his first fight against Antonio Tarver, Roy Jones said he felt like "a seven" when asked to measure how he felt from 1-10. Mayweather is coming off a major, major win both legacy wise and financially. Can't take a year-long break or chill for a minute. It may be harder to get up for this fight than some think.

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                    • MindBat
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by SweetPbfAli
                      I honestly turned it when they started talking about the cars ,money etc. It's so cliche at this point. I always tell people i'm a fan of Floyd Mayweather the boxer, but never care to hear him speak or anything else outside the ring.

                      I feel 50 was right when he said "the plane has to wheels" referencing Floyd.
                      Its a marketing ploy which attracts both those who believe "Money is the root of all evil" , and those who believe "Money makes the world go around and is just as important as the air we breathe". It gets them both talking.

                      It's a theme which has been quite successful selling his fights, so why try and tamper with it?

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