Is Roy Jones in the top 20 all time great?

[LacedUp]

Don't know about specifically top 20 or whatever as i've never bothered to do a list, but the way i look at it is someone like Roy Jones is a once in a lifetime type of fighter. Maybe his resume is not up to the standards of our precious Boxingscene experts but you'd think these wannabe experts could spare a name or two on a resume when the talent is as extraordinary as Roy Jones was.

Is he one of the best ever? Absofuckinglutely.

He's a once a generation/era type of fighter. I think there's a major difference. He was always my favourite when I grew up with his style and his swagger etc, but I can't see how he can crack the top 20 with the resume he has unfortunately.

[IronDanHamza]

Rather top 50.

No that's more like Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins range I would say.

Roy's abit higher than those guys or would be on my list, about Top 30.

[Holywarrior]

Rather top 50.

name 49 better

[MGMGRAND]

As the TS, it's only right I give my opinion.

Roy Jones Jr can easily be considered TOP 20, not able to put to squeeze him into top 10 however.

But my thing is this, does anyone have Mike Tyson ranked higher than Roy Jones atg???
Because Tysons resume pales in comparison to RJJ...
Tyson lost ALL his biggest fights...Kinda like the Zab Judah or Collazo effect.

[jas]

There's a difference between best and greatest. Rjj is better than hopkins but bhop is greater.

[LacedUp]

No that's more like Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins range I would say.

Roy's abit higher than those guys or would be on my list, about Top 30.

I agree Roy is higher than those guys, but I don't think he's top 30 material. could have a look through my list and see what I come up with.

name 49 better

I didn't say he was the 50th best, did I? I just don't think he's top 30. But he could be anywhere from say 35-50 in my book. I can certainly name 30 fighters that are greater.

[Roy Jones Jnr]

He's a once a generation/era type of fighter. I think there's a major difference. He was always my favourite when I grew up with his style and his swagger etc, but I can't see how he can crack the top 20 with the resume he has unfortunately.

Resume is not the be all and end all for me.

Resume plays a big part but so does talent when i judge a fighter.

Same goes for Mike Tyson.

I know it's cool and all on this forum to say Mike Tyson was overrated and didn't beat anyone and based on his resume he doesn't make the top 2000(which i'm sure someone has a extensively well written list somewhere), but the way i see it is when the talent is as extraordinary as it is in both these cases especially Roy Jones as we've seen it pitted up against two all time greats in their primes(and don't give me the **** about Hopkins not being ready or green or still in his nappies), there's more than enough evidence there to be able to make a judgement that Roy Jones is without a doubt one of the best ever.

[Jsmooth9876]

No that's more like Mayweather, Pacquaio, Hopkins range I would say.

Roy's abit higher than those guys or would be on my list, about Top 30.

Unfortunately, Roy fought his light heavy career against mostly bums except for Tarver at the end and guys like Griffen and Virgil Hill at the start. He was a great fighter but I think Manny, Hopkins and Maybe Floyd if he beats Manny would have better resumes then Roy..Not taking away his accomplishments though, he was my favorite fighter for a long long time and it's sad that he's still fighting now..

[LacedUp]

Resume is not the be all and end all for me.

Resume plays a big part but so does talent when i judge a fighter.

Same goes for Mike Tyson.

I know it's cool and all on this forum to say Mike Tyson was overrated and didn't beat anyone and based on his resume he doesn't make the top 2000(which i'm sure someone has a extensively well written list somewhere), but the way i see it is when the talent is as extraordinary as it is in both these cases especially Roy Jones as we've seen it pitted up against two all time greats in their primes(and don't give me the **** about Hopkins not being ready or green or still in his nappies), there's more than enough evidence there to be able to make a judgement that Roy Jones is without a doubt one of the best ever.

Sure - and for me, it has to be a mix of both. But with emphasis on resume. I understand where you're going with this, but I don't really feel it's an adequate comparison.

If you look at his H2H comparisions, surely you could make a case for him being one of the most talented fighters of all times. Unfortunately for him, there wasn't a Ray Leonard, a Hagler, a Hearns etc to prove his talents against. So I guess in many ways he's a victim of the era he was born in. And I remember how people were always saying he was fighting bums.

He has quite a few good wins - but not enough for me to say he's a top 30 of all times, let alone top 20.

[Big_L]

pernell whitaker's resume of wins is no better than roy's, yet he's considered top 20 by everybody. I never hear nobody disrespecting him.