Andre Ward: “I think Manny Pacquiao has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about

[straightleft]

Does not change the fact that it was a starved and dehydrated 147 Oscar facing a hydrated, well fed 148 Pacquiao in the ring.

Was it Oscar's fault? Yes.

Was it a legitimate athletic accomplishment for Pacquiao? No.

Well 5 months ago before the fight Oscar fought Forbes at 150. 1 month before the fight Oscar weight was in 147 already. If you ask me Oscar was preparing to fight someone at 147 for many months if not a year. Actually this Oscar weight drained issue was just an excuse because his plan beating a lightweight backfired on him big time.

[Bushbaby]

You don't have to take my word, you can just fcuking remember what happened. Welter was not on Pac's radar, he was straight cherrypicked by DLH. He had a single fight at 135 FFS

Be kool dude. I think ODLH was 1 of Pacman's greatest wins and I also know Oscar cherrypicked him. Doesn't change anything concerning Cotto.

[HeroBando]

Andre doesn't like Floyd.

Pacquiao drained Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito, all 154 lbers, down to 147, 147, and 150 respectively.

Mayweather drains Canelo, a 154 lber, down to 152, and the hypocritical Pacquiao fanatics go insane.

WTF? Oscar's previous fight at 150, went looking for a midget to beat on at 147. Everybody knows it was a cherrypick gone wrong. And if that's not enough, now Cotto was a 154er lol.

CWs are old news, but if you go ****ting on another fighter for using them in his 7th and 8th division, you gonna get some **** back if you request one. Especially only in your 5th division, where you're supposed to be 2x and reigning champ. It's both the massive hypocrisy, and the admission that you can't hang in only your 5th. Or at least that's how he feels.

Pac asks when he's moving up higher than anyone before. If he finds he can handle it, he doesn't ask for a CW in that division. If he can't, he's upfront, and drops the belt like after Marg, can't handle that 8th division. Floyd, he keeps the belt for a year, asks not to get stripped, then insists to unify at a CW.

[Weebler I]

Yeah, who knows what would have happened, what I do know is that team Pacman need the catchweight the 1st time and wanted a catchweight the 2nd time.

I think they wanted it both times but I dont think they needed it for the WW fight despite requesting it. Fight should've been stopped much earlier.

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Cheers, I'll have to get on it. I'm getting this "paranormal activity" movie rollover pop-up at the bottom of the screen. Annoying as hell.

[firstborn]

Why all the emotion,when did boxing fans become so sensitive? Ward was asked a question and gave an honest answer, lord forbid if he forgot to kiss Pac's ass in the process.........this forum is starting to resemble a teenage girls fanclub.

BTW, Ward didn't drain Dawson just like Pac didn't drain De la Hoya they both did it own their own for perceived advantages that didn't come to fruition on fight night.

[kej718]

I agree with pretty much everything he said

[Bushbaby]

I think they wanted it both times but I dont think they needed it for the WW fight despite requesting it. Fight should've been stopped much earlier.

So you don't think there's any reason at all why team Pacman did not want to fight Cotto without a catchweight??

[HeroBando]

Be kool dude. I think ODLH was 1 of Pacman's greatest wins and I also know Oscar cherrypicked him. Doesn't change anything concerning Cotto.

Beating Oscar didn't make him a welter, much less welter champ. It was a one off vs a guy not top 10 welter quality, in the shape he came in. Put it like this:

12 months prior to the fight, and he's a huge underdog to Cotto at welter (or 145)
In the mean time he'd barely taken a punch above 130

Lots of reasons to think he couldn't cut it at welter. But that's Pac, once he routed a top 3 Cotto at a CW, no more welter CWs.

[PAC-BOY]

Why all the emotion,when did boxing fans become so sensitive? Ward was asked a question and gave an honest answer, lord forbid if he forgot to kiss Pac's ass in the process.........this forum is starting to resemble a teenage girls fanclub.

BTW, Ward didn't drain Dawson just like Pac didn't drain De la Hoya they both did it own their own for perceived advantages that didn't come to fruition on fight night.

Wrong. DLH picked Pac. DLH decided weight.

[Mike D]

Amazing how some have rewritten history in the Pac/DLH fight as Pac draining DLH.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

F**king DLH was the A side. He chose Pacquiao. Not the other way around. And then he proceeded to get murdered and quit on his stool.