Andre Ward: “I think Manny Pacquiao has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about

[HeroBando]

Why does he have to keep his opinion to himself? And since when has a fighter exspressing an opinion on another fighter been a problem for you and others in this thread who often cite the criticisms from other fighters when debating fellow posters?

Oh he's welcome to say anything, even if he makes himself look bad. It's best to avoid though. I mean, there's nobody in boxing who's moved up more divisions than Pac, and here's a guy who's never budged a lb, p4p best win over a guy dropping a full division, trying to give Pac a lesson. That's outrageous cheek, it's like Ortiz taunting someone for quitting

[djtmal]

Oh I see, he has an opinion about the holy and humble Pacquiao so now he can't fight out of Oakland? He should have stopped where he gave Manny compliments but anything else is unauthorized and opens him up to dumb ass criticism? Am I reading your post right?

he's being a hypocrite plain and simple...all the other stuff is your crap...

[HeroBando]

Yeah, who knows what would have happened, what I do know is that team Pacman need the catchweight the 1st time and wanted a catchweight the 2nd time.




Yeah, well I guess I'll just take your word for it cause I don't have inside info on what their team had planned. All I know is that they fought at 147 before and after Cotto.

You don't have to take my word, you can just fcuking remember what happened. Welter was not on Pac's radar, he was straight cherrypicked by DLH. He had a single fight at 135 FFS

[them_apples]

lol at him bashing Manny for the DLH fight, Manny was fighting at 130 just a year before. Who the hell can do that

[cjgrey]

DLH did that to himself.

Does not change the fact that it was a starved and dehydrated 147 Oscar facing a hydrated, well fed 148 Pacquiao in the ring.

Was it Oscar's fault? Yes.

Was it a legitimate athletic accomplishment for Pacquiao? No.

[cjgrey]

You cats are taking this waaay out into left field and as usual miss the whole point entirely...

Point is he's being a hypocrite here.

He starts off good with saying Manny Pacquaio has a great legacy. He should have left it there, but no.

He's continues on to ultimately take a s**t on him regarding catchweight fights, a tactful s**t, but a s**t nonetheless...when he himself, mayweather, and just about every top fighter has at least one under their belt.

This coming from a cat who can't seem to fight out of Oakland, Calif, or put on an exciting fight if his life depended on it...

Andre doesn't like Floyd.

Pacquiao drained Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito, all 154 lbers, down to 147, 147, and 150 respectively.

Mayweather drains Canelo, a 154 lber, down to 152, and the hypocritical Pacquiao fanatics go insane.

[djtmal]

Ward probably would be better served to figure out how can get more than a few stray animals to see him wrestle, bearhug, lowblow, and headbutt his way to a sleep inducing decision....

[HeroBando]

Does not change the fact that it was a starved and dehydrated 147 Oscar facing a hydrated, well fed 148 Pacquiao in the ring.

Was it Oscar's fault? Yes.

Was it a legitimate athletic accomplishment for Pacquiao? No.

How's that different than Ward Dawson? Here's how:

Dawson came down a full division, DLH went down 3lbs
Pac went up 2 divisions, Ward didn't budge
Pac was moving up to his 7th (all time record), Ward staying in his 1st
Dawson never did anything at 168, Oscar accomplished at welter, his 4th
Prime Oscar > Prime Dawson
Drained Oscar > drained Dawson, cause he still brings a chin

[PAC-BOY]

:AOR:....Ward is an idiot!

[djtmal]

Andre doesn't like Floyd.

Pacquiao drained Oscar, Cotto, and Margarito, all 154 lbers, down to 147, 147, and 150 respectively.

Mayweather drains Canelo, a 154 lber, down to 152, and the hypocritical Pacquiao fanatics go insane.

ward pulled dawson down to 168 from 175...pot calling the kettle black in my book...