Andre Ward: “I think Manny Pacquiao has a great legacy, but we got to be honest about

[Bushbaby]

Cotto said not below 150, if Marg gets it why not me? Is Pac afraid of me? Then Pac offers 150 and Cotto turns tail. That's 1 year after requesting to defend his 154 belt vs Marg at 150. he says the money and weight were not right, goes on to look way undersized and lose to Trout for $1m.

Team Pacman said they'd fight Miguel Cotto no higher than 148. That's a fact.

[HeroBando]

The first part of what you said is fair, however, the simple fact is Oscar did not come in healthy or bigger. He came in unhealthy and smaller, and if the athletic commissions weren't so corrupt, he never should have been medically cleared to fight. But of course, no one was going to cancel a bug money De La Hoya fight for medical reasons.

The second part, completely wrong. Floyd's boxing beginnings were as harsh if not harsher than Pacquiao's. His father forced him to start boxing from the age of 3, that's why his knuckles are so worn down and break so easily, so he can't throw with full power anymore. When Floyd was 14-16, he was fighting the top ADULT amateurs in the country, who often outweighed him by significant amounts in in-ring weight.

Uh sure thing, he should have picked up a world title or 2 for his efforts, in 3 rounders and sparring.

[HeroBando]

Team Pacman said they'd fight Miguel Cotto no higher than 148. That's a fact.

Dude how can you be so misinformed after all these years? You've made 100s of posts about this based on misinformation. Google "pac cotto 150" and out comes

http://www.badlefthook.com/2012/9/1/3285612/cotto-vs-trout-pacquiao-rematched-declined-catchweight-150-hbo-boxing-news

[cjgrey]

Manny has a better resume than mayweather even if you take out his fights after lightweight.

The fact is floyd hasnt fought a SINGLE hof fighter in his prime. In terms of legacy, manny dwarfes floyd. We all believe floyd has the ability to be an atg but he hasnt dared to be great. So anybody with a brain knows any claims of his being GOAT is complete bull****.

Floyd fought an exponentially better Oscar, an undefeated Hatton, a fresher Shane Mosley, and Cotto at a weight he was more comfortable at.

When has Pacquiao beaten the better version of any common opponent's they've had? Maybe Marquez. That's one.

People who aren't actually involved in the pro fighting industry need to STFU with their idiocy.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

Ward really shouldn't speak about weight draining after the Dawson fight. Unless he's willing to admit his win is not so good.

dawson called ward out n asked to come down

[cjgrey]

Uh sure thing, he should have picked up a world title or 2 for his efforts, in 3 rounders and sparring.

Go to an inner city fight gym in Detroit and see if you last 3 minutes. Forget three rounds.

[cjgrey]

I'd rather watch Manny Pac beg Floyd for a fight, than watch Andre Ward fight

Yeah, your idol now has to sacrifice his own dignity because his own ******ity led him to mismanage his finances.

He should have accepted the PED testing from the very beginning instead of trying to dictate terms to the bigger PPV draw. He should have known his place.

[TonitosWay]

Everyone has a right I their opinion.

But one thing that kills me is people forget that Oscar asked Manny to jump two weight divisions to meet him (who had to drop one) and made weight. I have a lot of respect Oscar because he's always been a scout.

[HeroBando]

Go to an inner city fight gym in Detroit and see if you last 3 minutes. Forget three rounds.

Hey I'm sure Floyd didn't have it easy as a kid, same with most boxers. Still doubt he had it worse than Pac, before or after he turned pro as a blue chip prospect.

[straightleft]

Pacquiao fans are rabid and ignorant. That is the problem.

They are no worst than the floydiots making alts everyday like a hobby because their alts after alts are getting banned in regular basis posting nonsense.