Comments Thread For: Rigondeaux's Co-Promoter Not Happy With Promotion

[Grimgash]

Actually, casual fans are gonna pay to watch who the promoters tell them to watch. Much like music fans are gonna listen to who the record companies tell them to listen to. I don't know about you. But I'm the only hardcore fight fa in my inncer circle. And preety much everyone asks me who's who. But instead of being an uneducated dumbass and telling them, "this Rigondeaux cat is boring as ****, don't bother watching." I simply explain to them that he's a craftsman and you're watching one of the best in the world. But there's so many relatively new hardcore fans that only became hardcore because of the Floyd-Manny beef. That they're too ****** to understand or appreciate a guy like Rigo or Ward. That's what's fairly simply.

They're not. They're going to watch who's good and who they like. Some of my friends are more informed casuals and some are just casuals...the points is when I put on boxing on the TV it's either getting watched or changed. People aren't going to just watch because they're told. If there's nothing exciting happening for a round or two all the "but he's so good" is going to change that.

[STREET CLEANER]

I agree that Rigo should fight in a demographic area that would bring in more fans for him. If he keeps winning he will attract more fans even with his style. It took Bhop a long time to establish himself.

If Rigo wants to make immediate money then he has to change his style. I wouldn't if I was him. But he has a real problem in not attarcting fans. Not only the fans in Atlantic City left but many the usual fans didn't tune in. His style is just not appealing to the masses

[Art-illery]

But.....they can't. America hates Cuba. If I was born as Steve Jobs son I'd never have had to actually goto college get a degree and work a real job. The fact of the matter is I wasn't and it matters. All the wishing in the world isn't going to make Rigo a star. He has to change himself, promoters won't waste money on someone they can't make money off of. It's that simple. I've said it countless times and it's a simple concept for anyone who's taken business 101 or understands how making money works. No one invests in an investment that's guaranteed to fail.

Moral of story life isn't fair. If he was Mexican he'd sell quite well...he's not because the world isn't all lollipops and roses.

Actually, casual fans are gonna pay to watch who the promoters tell them to watch. Much like music fans are gonna listen to who the record companies tell them to listen to. I don't know about you. But I'm the only hardcore fight fa in my inncer circle. And preety much everyone asks me who's who. But instead of being an uneducated dumbass and telling them, "this Rigondeaux cat is boring as ****, don't bother watching." I simply explain to them that he's a craftsman and you're watching one of the best in the world. But there's so many relatively new hardcore fans that only became hardcore because of the Floyd-Manny beef. That they're too ****** to understand or appreciate a guy like Rigo or Ward. That's what's fairly simply.

I was just paralleling that idea too... I'm not sure how deep you follow Hip Hop music, but Rigondeaux (to me) is like the MF DOOMs and the Jay Electronicas of the boxing industry. Rogo's approach may seem mundane and boring to the casual boxing fan, but his style is filled with a lot of complexity that could be hard to explain for a lot of people that don't know the sweet science. Much like DOOM's and Jay's delivery as it relates to their lyricism.

[Grimgash]

I was just paralleling that idea too... I'm not sure how deep you follow Hip Hop music, but Rigondeaux (to me) is like the MF DOOMs and the Jay Electronicas of the boxing industry. Rogo's approach may seem mundane and boring to the casual boxing fan, but his style is filled with a lot of complexity that could be hard to explain for a lot of people that don't know the sweet science. Much like DOOM's and Jay's delivery as it relates to their lyricism.

Yes but fans of anything that's casual want something easy to get into without having to put in much effort to "understand". Hardcores of anything are hardcore for a reason...that's what they enjoy. Most people want something quick and catchy ala mainstream music or brawling fights. You don't have to think about it to enjoy it.

[lopez36]

What was entertaining about watching Pac laying on the canvas twitching because he "opened up?" What's entertaining about that heavyweight laying in a ****in' coma because he "took chances?" What was entertaining about watching Lavander Johnson (think that's his last name) die in the ring? What was entertaining about watching Fernando Montiel beat the Alcazar kid to death on the DLH-Vargas undercard? I'm just curious to know.

you don't have to go in there reckless,but he can try to land more punches,nobody is telling him to fight like gatti,even his promoter acknowledges rigo doesn't do too much,if nothing at all

[Art-illery]

Actually quite of the more influential people dislike cuba still. It's not a secret.

Influential people? Like who? And is it the country of Cuba, or Castro's regime? There's a difference. Over 50,000 people were killed in the 1960s, and the majority of American's don't see Vietnam as an " permanent enemy of the state."

[.:: JSFD26 ::.]

Put it on Televisa for all I give a ****. I'll be there and I already put my vacation papers in. Lol


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[Grimgash]

Influential people? Like who? And is it the country of Cuba, or Castro's regime? There's a difference. Over 50,000 people were killed in the 1960s, and the majority of American's don't see Vietnam as an " permanent enemy of the state."

Like the Gov. and while it IS getting betters it's nowhere near "good". Cuba is not well regarded in terms of the US still and probably won't be regarded well for awhile. There's still limitations on everything from travel to trade to business.

[hitking]

They're not. They're going to watch who's good and who they like. Some of my friends are more informed casuals and some are just casuals...the points is when I put on boxing on the TV it's either getting watched or changed. People aren't going to just watch because they're told. If there's nothing exciting happening for a round or two all the "but he's so good" is going to change that.

I think a some point, all of us were casual fans and eventually grew into hardcore fans. Mike Tyson is the reason I'm a boxing fan. Obviously, he wasn't a technical genius. But eventually, as I became more educated as a fight fan. Watching Sweet Pea not get touched for 12rds was just as entertaining as watching Mike starch somebody in the first round. And I only became more educated because my dad would sit and watch Sweet Pea and explain to me what the hell I'm watching. I got a homeboy that I would classify as a well informed casual fan. He didn't even watch Rigo-Donaire and was telling me how boring Rigo was just because of what he read on FB and boxing forums. We sat and watched Rigo last week, and now he's a fan because he knows what the hell he's looking at. If not for me, he would have never even sat and watched Rigo. I'm sure you could do the same with your friends. but if you as the hardcore fan are too ignorant to appreciate all styles, there's no way you can convert the casuals to hardcores.

[hitking]

I was just paralleling that idea too... I'm not sure how deep you follow Hip Hop music, but Rigondeaux (to me) is like the MF DOOMs and the Jay Electronicas of the boxing industry. Rogo's approach may seem mundane and boring to the casual boxing fan, but his style is filled with a lot of complexity that could be hard to explain for a lot of people that don't know the sweet science. Much like DOOM's and Jay's delivery as it relates to their lyricism.

I'm not a music fan, but understand your point.