Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

[billeau2]

Keep posting because my last post, that what everyone does when you post. Adamek shouldn't even be mentioned in the same breath as Louis. Funny you bring up both Vits and Carnera though. You do know Primo fought twice as many top 10 contenders than Vitty vitty **** ****, right? And that they have nearly identical styles, right?

Ouch...now that qualifies as cruel and unusually severe ownership.... The Klit guys are really taking a drubbing....It appears as though even the ambling alp was a pedigree, a veritable patrician compared to the likes of Povatkin a la the 'russian with nothin' who was quite relieved that Vlad decided on hugs instead of punches or...as the famous Slappsy maxi Rosenthal used to say "someone could have gotten huyt (hurt in new yorkese) in there!"

[JAB5239]

Your opinions of the numbers you posted are outright stretching the truth.. I never lied.. I have no reason to when I can take it to you with the truth.. go post again about top 10 ranked fighters in other eras & who they fought & LOST to.. most of them lost when they stepped up.. so it proves NOTHING when one is ranked 8 in one era & another is ranked 18 in this one.. it's apples & apples.. you're comparing here but way to make it look like past greats fought apples & Vitali has fought oranges.. it has no basis in fact as to the fighters ability where they were ranked when THESE fighters aren't great to begin with..



Only championship fighters can be ranked against other championship fighters of the past & have the rankings mean something & be evaluated in a more accurate manner as they fought & beat most everyone that they fought in title bouts & have a few losses to show for it except for Marciano.. until you can prove fighter B plus is better than a B plus or a C minus in this era without placing too much significance in how far they reached a certain fighting list without stepping over the mountain.

You've done nothing but manipulated those rankings.. it's like a top 10 song list... until you have proof one song sounds better than another when the tunes are similar in nature...you'll always be stretching the truth.. I won't call them lies just because you've accused me of lieing as why I should I sink to your level.

What numbers have i stretched the truth on and exactly where did i use a different set of standards for anything ive posted? Again, I'll wait...liar.

[Poet682006]

& for your information a top 30 fighter in this era can be better than a top 10- 15 fighter in other eras

The only problem with that little theory is that a top 10-15 of this era is grossly inferior to the top 30 of ALL other eras. Capish? Son.

[KBRO]

What numbers have i stretched the truth on and exactly where did i use a different set of standards for anything ive posted? Again, I'll wait...liar.

First off I just explained it but keep on being a broken record & I edited the entire post to add more of an explanation that you'll fail to grasp.. it's you that's lieing by calling me a liar.. when you're trying to be some sort of psychology major by stretching my words.. you're not that smart.. so stop playing yourself.. this is what happens when one can't go toe to toe.. they nitpick about an inconsequential thing that was said & are FAILING to grasp at the big picture so they harp on a little minor detail & think they are playing the word correction officer.

[Drunk Punch]

It must be said its not their fault that the HW division has been so poor during this era. But it is their fault they've racked up so many tomato can defences against prospects journeymen and fringe contenders.

When the opposition has been so poor its hard to put them anywhere near the HW greats.

Vitali, to his credit, fought a faded, fat Lennox and did very well and Wlad has the athleticism to give any HW problems... but ATGs? No way!

Wlad's style is so painful to watch too, which doesn't help his rating either.

[JAB5239]

First off I just explained it but keep on being a broken record & I edited the entire post to add more of an explanation that you'll fail to grasp.. it's you that's lieing by calling me a liar.. when you're trying to be some sort of psychology major by stretching my words.. you're not that smart.. so stop playing yourself.. this is what happens when one can't go toe to toe.. they nitpick about an inconsequential thing that was said & are FAILING to grasp at the big picture so they harp on a little minor detail & think they are playing the word correction officer.

Show me how I've manipulated rankings by favoring any other fighter. Show mw where ive said bscene polls are factual. If you cant than you're a liar, end of story. Man up jim jim.

[KBRO]

Show me how I've manipulated rankings by favoring any other fighter. Show mw where ive said bscene polls are factual. If you cant than you're a liar, end of story. Man up jim jim.

You were pertaining to your polls as the end all be all of evidence that the Klitschko's aren't worthy or Vitali isn't.. If I took your poll as gospel we wouldn't be having this convo... your opinions of said rankings & or comp are nonfactual but way to convey them as such... you're just boring me now.. so im out.. broken record jabbies.... let me know when you want to go toe to toe.. as you're more boring now than a Wladimir Klitschko huggathon... kapish!

[JAB5239]

You were pertaining to your polls as the end all be all of evidence that the Klitschko's aren't worthy or Vitali isn't.. If I took your poll as gospel we wouldn't be having this convo... your opinions of said rankings & or comp are nonfactual but way to convey them as such... you're just boring me now.. so im out.. broken record jabbies.... let me know when you want to go toe to toe.. as you're more boring now than a Wladimir Klitschko huggathon... kapish!

Really? Show me where i said that. Fact is you cant. You tried using this poll as proof, i provided another. Stop lying on people and grow up son. You've been bagged!

[KBRO]

The only problem with that little theory is that a top 10-15 of this era is grossly inferior to the top 30 of ALL other eras. Capish? Son.

Again... you're using an opinion & so am I... whomever is more convincing wins out here.... poet boy.. I says they are grossly inferior because they are made out to look that way by the potent KLITSCHKO right & the devastating jab to go with it.. all of these opponents CAN'T be all sucky on there own.. yet the Klitschko resistance is the SAME for most every type of opposition & or style incurred.. that to me is more damning evidence than what you can provide by stating otherwise & the over inflation of the names the great champions of the past have fought....


Your ONLY real evidence is that there were more competitive fights back then whether they were 12 rds or 15 & can you please tell me again how that favors the alltime great that was more competitive with his opposition than the alltime great who hasn't been in competitive fights.. how exactly does the comp get elevated back in the day when there's less domination going on back then.. why is that competition being elevated AUTOMATICALLY just because they performed better against the champs? You can't have both the comp being elevated as well as the champs at the same time.... too much inflation of an opinion to give both the competition & the champions the same amount of credit at the same time.. just not logical.

[KBRO]

Really? Show me where i said that. Fact is you cant. You tried using this poll as proof, i provided another. Stop lying on people and grow up son. You've been bagged!

You're pathetic.. still the same old jabs.. peace out son & you were schooled.. don't be deceived by the polls.. just know who the man i s up in here.. you can be the nuthugger killer . when Jimmy's not in the house... kap[ish! & get back to the pink nightie.. prettier than that mug you'
re sporting now... lmao!