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Are The Klitschkos Some of The Worst Heavyweight Champions Of All Time?

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  • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
    In your warped world "The Klits aren't ATGs" is deemed vile. Meanwhile out in the real world......
    It's ridiculous but not vile.. you're entitled to your opinion & I'm entitled to mine.. I go into detail to back my opinions.. not too many do this. The brothers combined are 106-5 in the heavyweight division... just think about that for a second... almost 40% of those bouts have been title bouts.. if they are not all-time greats then no one is.... 54% HERE don't think so & that's just pathetic hate.

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    • Originally posted by KBRO View Post
      It's ridiculous but not vile.. you're entitled to your opinion & I'm entitled to mine.. I go into detail to back my opinions.. not too many do this. The brothers combined are 106-5 in the heavyweight division... just think about that for a second... almost 40% of those bouts have been title bouts.. if they are not all-time greats then no one is.... 54% HERE don't think so & that's just pathetic hate.
      106-5 against sewage doesn't make you an ATG. The fact that 3 of the 5 losses came against sewage speaks volumes.

      And btw, not having the same overblown adulation for a nuthugger's favorite fighter is NOT the definition of hate. But thinking it is most definitely IS the definition of nuthuggery.

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      • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
        106-5 against sewage doesn't make you an ATG. The fact that 3 of the 5 losses came against sewage speaks volumes.

        And btw, not having the same overblown adulation for a nuthugger's favorite fighter is NOT the definition of hate. But thinking it is most definitely IS the definition of nuthuggery.
        Every alltime great except for Marciano has lost to mediocrity.. so that's an asinine statement.. hating excessively is the same form as being a supposed nuthugger.. so whatever you are.. I am.. just on different sides.. sewage is an exaggerated opinion on your part with no factual basis.. one can ONLY oppose whatever is out there.. if they are qualified in the same manner that other era's contenders were qualified then that's what it is..




        Fighters can ONLY destroy what's in front of them... impossible to do otherwise. so taking away from someone's greatness because of that impossibility is to play the fool each & every time.. it's the heavyweight division.. same rules & .. it's NOT a different league like the CBA or the minors like you & all the other antiKILITSCHKO brigade liken it to... kapish!

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        • If you rank Vitali among the fifteen greatest heavyweights in history, you are grossly overrating him. Good fighter, could hold his own, but a heavily padded record with a very flattering knockout ratio.

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          • Originally posted by Don Duva View Post
            If you rank Vitali among the fifteen greatest heavyweights in history, you are grossly overrating him. Good fighter, could hold his own, but a heavily padded record with a very flattering knockout ratio.
            You're grossly underrating him.. he can more than hold his own. I rank him as the #1 H2H fighter in boxing history.. considering & taking everything into account.. size.. strength.. boxing & fighting skills.. best OVERALL NUMBERS in A heavyweight champion in boxing history.. least amount of weaknesses.. power.. throws punches in bunches. always beats you to the punch.. hard to hit.. can take your best punch no matter what,, has the best ko & scorecard ratio in the history of boxing bar none.. all these things taking place is no aberration..6ft 7 & 250 lbs without any substantial flunctuation for each & every fight.. I challenge anyone to find MoRE strengths & most importantly advantages that he has when they've fought in a physically healthy state.

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            • Originally posted by KBRO View Post
              Every alltime great except for Marciano has lost to mediocrity..
              Which mediocre fighter did Gene Tunney lose to? What about Joe Frazier? Joe Louis? Rid**** Bowe?

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              • There have been a LOT worse, less talented heavyweights champs.

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                • Originally posted by poet682006 View Post
                  106-5 against sewage doesn't make you an ATG. The fact that 3 of the 5 losses came against sewage speaks volumes.

                  And btw, not having the same overblown adulation for a nuthugger's favorite fighter is NOT the definition of hate. But thinking it is most definitely IS the definition of nuthuggery.
                  The lancasters won in the end, sort of.

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                  • Originally posted by Normanconqueror View Post
                    There have been a LOT worse, less talented heavyweights champs.
                    You have to understand Planet Klitschko Speak: If you don't worship them and rate them better than the Ali, Louis, Holmes, Foreman, ect ect ect then in their minds you're ipso facto calling them Hasim Rahman or Trevor Berbick. It's all or nothing with the Klitlickers. Giving them anything less than GOAT statues means you're a "hater". That's how they operate. Check the poll: I voted "Average". Their opponents are what's garbage NOT the Klit's themselves. That being said, the Klits aren't ATGs either but being very good but not all-time great is a big difference from being crap. The nuthuggers are incapable of making that distinction.

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                    • Originally posted by KBRO View Post
                      You're grossly underrating him.. he can more than hold his own. I rank him as the #1 H2H fighter in boxing history.. considering & taking everything into account.. size.. strength.. boxing & fighting skills.. best OVERALL NUMBERS in A heavyweight champion in boxing history.. least amount of weaknesses.. power.. throws punches in bunches. always beats you to the punch.. hard to hit.. can take your best punch no matter what,, has the best ko & scorecard ratio in the history of boxing bar none.. all these things taking place is no aberration..6ft 7 & 250 lbs without any substantial flunctuation for each & every fight..I challenge anyone to find MoRE strengths & most importantly advantages that he has when they've fought in a physically healthy state.


                      How would you rank an overweight, old Lewis then?

                      As for Vitali's weaknesses, he's not so hard to hit, he relied on his own power and chin. His footwork and speed are not exceptional.

                      I think -you- are grossly overrating him

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