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  • #71
    Originally posted by hogey View Post
    Groves got hurt with a big shot but come back and took over the fight before stopping Anderson fairly and squarely that has happened many times in the game a rematch in not mandatory if the money is not there. Totally different to a fight that Groves was conclusively dominating in nearly every round against Froch and was stopped the first time he was wobbled after making Froch bandy several times.
    The stoppage in the Anderson fight was very premature. Anderson decked Groves in the previous round and then as soon as Groves got on top for a sustained period of time, the referee jumped in.

    Originally posted by hogey View Post
    As for the Degale fight Groves got the decision i felt he edged it but it was very close, they will fight again but both men know it next time it needs to be for big money an immediate rematch would have made micky mouse money without a proper title being up for grabs. Rest assured none of Degales backers wanted him in with Groves again until it was for big wedge because losing again would have killed his career stone dead.
    Absolute horse ****. Frank Warren appealed to the BBBofC to order an immediate rematch.

    As for "micky mouse money" - how much money did Groves get to face Paul Smith or Franciso Sierra or all the other bums he fought? I assume they were all huge paydays since a DeGale rematch was "micky mouse money"

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    • #72
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
      The stoppage in the Anderson fight was very premature. Anderson decked Groves in the previous round and then as soon as Groves got on top for a sustained period of time, the referee jumped in.



      Absolute horse ****. Frank Warren appealed to the BBBofC to order an immediate rematch.

      As for "micky mouse money" - how much money did Groves get to face Paul Smith or Franciso Sierra or all the other bums he fought? I assume they were all huge paydays since a DeGale rematch was "micky mouse money"
      Obviously you can't compare the two types of fights.

      Groves-DeGale is a PPV fight now. Or at least will be should DeGale beat his opponent next week.

      Let's not forget that Groves-DeGale I was a complete stinker that would never be a PPV fight again straight after. Both fighters knew they'd make much more down the line and DeGale acted like a little girl as Groves signed with Warren pretty much immediately after the fight and dropped out - making the fight harder to make.

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      • #73
        Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
        Obviously you can't compare the two types of fights.

        Groves-DeGale is a PPV fight now. Or at least will be should DeGale beat his opponent next week.

        Let's not forget that Groves-DeGale I was a complete stinker that would never be a PPV fight again. Both fighters knew they'd make much more down the line and DeGale acted like a little girl as Groves signed with Warren pretty much immediately after the fight and dropped out - making the fight harder to make.
        Groves-DeGale 1 shouldn't have been a PPV fight. Why did they even fight in the first place if clearly the fight was going to make more money down the road? What a poor excuse for not giving a warranted rematch.

        And can we stop this "both fighters" line. DeGale wanted the rematch and Groves didn't. Lets stop acting like they both agreed to this. Groves tried to use that logic and got picked apart by Froch. The same will happen to you.

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        • #74
          Chunky hopefully pulls through the eliminator. I'm more psyched about that fight than the main event, because that one is a win-win for me. Although I'd want Froch to smash Groves, but Groves and Degale winning would set up a mega fight between the two. IBF does enforce their mandatories.

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          • #75
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Groves-DeGale 1 shouldn't have been a PPV fight. Why did they even fight in the first place if clearly the fight was going to make more money down the road? What a poor excuse for not giving a warranted rematch.

            And can we stop this "both fighters" line. DeGale wanted the rematch and Groves didn't. Lets stop acting like they both agreed to this. Groves tried to use that logic and got picked apart by Froch. The same will happen to you.
            I know it shouldn't, and it wouldn't have been had Brahmer not dropped out for the millionth time against Cleverly.

            Groves was mandatory for the Londsdale belt and was commonwealth champion.

            I haven't seen DeGale really parading for a rematch. Have you? I saw him whine over the decision a lot. I then saw him moving to Mick Hennesey to fight bums on channel five in shopping centres. Hardly the stuff of dreams, wouldn't you say?

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            • #76
              Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
              Chunky hopefully pulls through the eliminator. I'm more psyched about that fight than the main event, because that one is a win-win for me. Although I'd want Froch to smash Groves, but Groves and Degale winning would set up a mega fight between the two. IBF does enforce their mandatories.
              Would rather see Froch-DeGale to be honest. That's in comparison to Groves-DeGale II.
              I would hope DeGale would bring out his A game in the trash talking department for either fight though.

              Groves beats him easy this time. The guy looks like the same fighter who fought Paul Smith all those years ago.

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              • #77
                Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                Would rather see Froch-DeGale to be honest. That's in comparison to Groves-DeGale II.
                I would hope DeGale would bring out his A game in the trash talking department for either fight though.

                Groves beats him easy this time. The guy looks like the same fighter who fought Paul Smith all those years ago.
                As long as Degale gets a shot at a World Title whether Froch or Groves, bring it on.

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                • #78
                  Originally posted by Box-Office View Post
                  As long as Degale gets a shot at a World Title whether Froch or Groves, bring it on.
                  He'll lose either way, so don't really care.

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                  • #79
                    Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                    He'll lose either way, so don't really care.
                    Future is bright and the future is chunky.

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                    • #80
                      Originally posted by LacedUp View Post
                      I know it shouldn't, and it wouldn't have been had Brahmer not dropped out for the millionth time against Cleverly.

                      Groves was mandatory for the Londsdale belt and was commonwealth champion.

                      I haven't seen DeGale really parading for a rematch. Have you? I saw him whine over the decision a lot. I then saw him moving to Mick Hennesey to fight bums on channel five in shopping centres. Hardly the stuff of dreams, wouldn't you say?
                      Yes I have actually. As Froch says in the video, he's asked for the rematch ever since. Frank Warren appealed to the board ffs!

                      But carry on pedalling the Hayemaker propaganda about how they both agreed to wait for a rematch and how DeGale only asked for it once in the post-fight press conference despite appealing to the board...lol

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