Was George Groves Crying When...

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Future is bright and the future is chunky.

I think you mean the buture's fright, the buture's Chunky

[LacedUp]

Future is bright and the future is chunky.

The future for chunky is back to shopping centres.

Yes I have actually. As Froch says in the video, he's asked for the rematch ever since. Frank Warren appealed to the board ffs!

But carry on pedalling the Hayemaker propaganda about how they both agreed to wait for a rematch and how DeGale only asked for it once in the post-fight press conference despite appealing to the board...lol

Show me then. Don't try to pull that "appeal to the BBBofC" bs. Who cares? It's a tactic move. Was an offer EVER made to Groves? No it wasn't. If I'm wrong, prove it.

And also, as much noise as Warren put out in the beginning, as soon as Groves signed with Warren - it all changed. DeGale was fighting for the EBU title against Wilczewski and had his other date booked in december of 2011 as well, before the split happened and he moved to channel 5, making the rematch close to impossible at the time.

I'm not the one using propaganda. You are.

This stuff happens in boxing, and you better learn it.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

The future for chunky is back to shopping centres.



Show me then. Don't try to pull that "appeal to the BBBofC" bs. Who cares? It's a tactic move. Was an offer EVER made to Groves? No it wasn't. If I'm wrong, prove it.

And also, as much noise as Warren put out in the beginning, as soon as Groves signed with Warren - it all changed. DeGale was fighting for the EBU title against Wilczewski and had his other date booked in december of 2011 as well, before the split happened and he moved to channel 5, making the rematch close to impossible at the time.

I'm not the one using propaganda. You are.

This stuff happens in boxing, and you better learn it.

A "tactic move"? What the *** does that even mean?

Pretty much every interview DeGale gives, he's asked about Groves and says he wants the rematch. It's all out there so don't play dumb.

Groves went to press saying he'd "bashed up DeGale" and he didn't need to give him a rematch.

Why are you burying your head in the sand and pretending all this didn't happen?

[Box-Office]

I think you mean the buture's fright, the buture's Chunky

I wrote that exact thing before erasing it, because I wasn't sure if people will get it.

[LacedUp]

A "tactic move"? What the *** does that even mean?

Pretty much every interview DeGale gives, he's asked about Groves and says he wants the rematch. It's all out there so don't play dumb.

Groves went to press saying he'd "bashed up DeGale" and he didn't need to give him a rematch.

Why are you burying your head in the sand and pretending all this didn't happen?

It means that Warren was taking a poosay route to secure a rematch but had no intention of backing it up. As I said, show me when he's made an offer to Groves. If Groves is actually ducking DeGale, he must have declined the opportunity to fight him, right? Otherwise, that just doesn't make sense.

Now, I can tell you that the BBBofC gets more appeals from Frank Warren than any other promoter. I remember about 7-8 appeals of the top of my head.

And in all honesty, because DeGale has mentioned the Groves rematch a couple of times - it doesn't mean Groves is ducking. If it does, then you have a very twisted outlook on what ducking means. I could name dozens of rematches that didn't happen straight away and so could you.

Groves has also said he'd happily fight DeGale again without any problems. Do you hold that statement in as high regard? And when exactly did you plan for DeGale-Groves II happening? The only realistic time for it to happen is the next fight after next weekend.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

It means that Warren was taking a poosay route to secure a rematch but had no intention of backing it up. As I said, show me when he's made an offer to Groves. If Groves is actually ducking DeGale, he must have declined the opportunity to fight him, right? Otherwise, that just doesn't make sense.

Now, I can tell you that the BBBofC gets more appeals from Frank Warren than any other promoter. I remember about 7-8 appeals of the top of my head.

And in all honesty, because DeGale has mentioned the Groves rematch a couple of times - it doesn't mean Groves is ducking. If it does, then you have a very twisted outlook on what ducking means. I could name dozens of rematches that didn't happen straight away and so could you.

Groves has also said he'd happily fight DeGale again without any problems. Do you hold that statement in as high regard? And when exactly did you plan for DeGale-Groves II happening? The only realistic time for it to happen is the next fight after next weekend.

Warren was taking a puussy route? But the fact that Groves downright refused to entertain the idea of a rematch wasn't puussy? LOL... God stop choking on Team Hayemaker **** for 2 seconds.

[LacedUp]

Warren was taking a puussy route? But the fact that Groves downright refused to entertain the idea of a rematch wasn't puussy? LOL... God stop choking on Team Hayemaker **** for 2 seconds.

Yes he was. He knew there wasn't a chance in a million years that a rematch would take place on the basis of the board. The Board would have to reset their whole rulebook to make that happen.

Refused to entertain the idea? Hmm.. that's not what I recall happening at all.

And when was this offer made for a rematch? That's the 3rd time I'm asking. when are you going to respond?

This has nothing to do with Hayemaker. Don't be childish.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Yes he was. He knew there wasn't a chance in a million years that a rematch would take place on the basis of the board. The Board would have to reset their whole rulebook to make that happen.

Refused to entertain the idea? Hmm.. that's not what I recall happening at all.

And when was this offer made for a rematch? That's the 3rd time I'm asking. when are you going to respond?

This has nothing to do with Hayemaker. Don't be childish.

Like when Groves appealed over the Froch rematch? Oh but that was serious wasn't it?

I don't know if an offer was made in writing. The offer was made verbally and Groves verbally dismissed the idea of a rematch several times.

Of course you don't recall it happening. You don't seem to recall a lot. Perhaps your orifices are too clogged with Team Hayemaker splooge.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Groves at 7 mins says he's going to find a better opponent that James DeGale.

He ends up fighting Paul Smith who DeGale absolutely embarrassed

[LacedUp]

Like when Groves appealed over the Froch rematch? Oh but that was serious wasn't it?

I don't know if an offer was made in writing. The offer was made verbally and Groves verbally dismissed the idea of a rematch several times.

Of course you don't recall it happening. You don't seem to recall a lot. Perhaps your orifices are too clogged with Team Hayemaker splooge.

You can't compare the two situations. Frank Warren appealed over a bad decision. Nobody broke any rules, it was a clean fight and it was close. Never going to warrant a rematch with the board - they have clear rules for these things and that didn't break them.

Groves' team appealed to the board on grounds of impartiality from the referee - much different. They actually had some things to back it up, yet it was dismissed on the very night on the fight - actually not allowed from the board's own rules.

An offer wasn't made in writing or anywhere else, and I doubt Frank Warren would base that on something Groves said in a press conference straight after the fight You're clutching at straws here.

If he was serious about making an offer, he would have made an offer. That's the bottom line.