The Corner Has The Right To Stop The Fight at ANYTIME!

[deanrw]

Nobody knows the fighter better than his own corner. They know when a fighter has had enough. They see and notice changes in a fighter better than any referee. They are the first line and their judgement should be respected at ALL TIMES.

Some cornermen are Jacka$$es though and will always listen to their fighter. The ref and doctor should also know when a fighter has had enough as a failsafe.

Alvarado was finished in that fight, and I am personally glad he decided enough is enough.

[TintaBoricua]

^This

The corner can throw in the towel but the ref can decline the towel. Either the ref stops it on his volition, the doctor stops it, or he asks the fighter if he can't go on.

Only idiots in forums are of the opinion that a fighter who can't go on is a quitter. Just based on the fact that a pugilist elects to make his money with his hands giving and receiving punishment exempts him from being a coward and certainly not a quitter. A knee, a head nod, whatever... It's not cowardly to concede defeat. This isn't Madden, or monopoly... This is often times life and death.

Everyone feels so bad for Leal but if he never came out that last fateful round the same morons would be emasculating him calling him a coward and a quitter. GTFOH. Who cares if it's the fighter himself who concedes. The ref gave him a chance to decide for himself, it's a title fight after all... He should be the one who decides to go or not to go.

That is very negligent. I thought when Mercante handled the Cotto-Foreman that he was being irresponsible. He's giving the undefeated champion the benefit of the doubt but once Foreman's leg gave out, his main tool in the fight was taken away. As Lampley said, "Yuri without legs is like Cotto without fists."

Foreman took a beating for a couple more rounds, corner tries to stop it, Mercante lets it go on. It's not like Yuri was complaining when they threw the towel in.

A fighter shouldn't be criticized for pulling out if he has obviously given a good account of himself.

Alvarado in his last fight was taking a beating, tired, and had 2 more rounds to go. He went to war as long as he could. No shame in that. Same with Cotto in the 1st Margarito fight. He couldn't keep his guard up consistently anymore. I've said it several times before and I'll say it again. If Cotto hadn't taken that last knee and just shelled up in the corner, we would've seen a brutal KO akin Pavlik-Taylor I.

[MikeRo1972]

The corner men know their fighter waaaaay better than the ref so they'll see things the ref can't. Some corner men know their fighter for years and see them fight and train and even sometimes practically live together so the ref should **ALWAYS** accept the corner's suggestion to stop the fight. **ALWAYS**

With respect, a little English lesson: when forming a sentence or making a statement you negate the word ALWAYS by putting SHOULD before it. What's my point? I agree with you in that the ref SHOULD listen to the corner but the ref must ALWAYS listen to either the doctor, the fighter, or his own conscious/professional assessment of the fighter's faculties at that moment.

This is a rare case in boxing where all parties involved did the correct thing. The corner rightfully asked for a stoppage, the ref didn't accept that and asked the fighter, and the fighter protected his health and his family's future by conceding.

It's all good.

[TheMexHurricane]

Exaclty!

The corner can not stop the fight.

Uh, that's already been said and rebutted effectively. Think outa the box rather than recycling weak and irrelevant arguments.

[TheMexHurricane]

With respect, a little English lesson: when forming a sentence or making a statement you negate the word ALWAYS by putting SHOULD before it. What's my point? I agree with you in that the ref SHOULD listen to the corner but the ref must ALWAYS listen to either the doctor, the fighter, or his own conscious/professional assessment of the fighter's faculties at that moment.

This is a rare case in boxing where all parties involved did the correct thing. The corner rightfully asked for a stoppage, the ref didn't accept that and asked the fighter, and the fighter protected his health and his family's future by conceding.

It's all good.

You SHOULD ALWAYS stick to the point. The ref would **NEVER** override my opinion if I thought my fighter can't continue. Tell me how you'd stop me from preventing my fighter from going out if you're the ref.

[lebrick]

So then what's the difference between Mike suggesting it and the corner suggesting it? He stopped it at Mike's suggestion after all. For all Weeks knew Mike had secretly told his corner to stop the fight but he forced him to publicize it. Besides, the corner can always stop the fight by entering the ring during the fight.

this is championship boxing. the ref gives the champion the benefit of the doubt.. "do not doubt the heart of a champion", a common saying specially at prize fighting..

[TheMexHurricane]

With respect, a little English lesson: when forming a sentence or making a statement you negate the word ALWAYS by putting SHOULD before it.

I actually appreciated that. Thank you.

[lebrick]

I make my own rules.

/thread..

[TheMexHurricane]

this is championship boxing. the ref gives the champion the benefit of the doubt.. "do not doubt the heart of a champion", a common saying specially at prize fighting..

You're rambling. Step your game up.

[TheMexHurricane]

this is championship boxing. the ref gives the champion the benefit of the doubt.. "do not doubt the heart of a champion", a common saying specially at prize fighting..

That statement doesn't make sense at this point. It woulda made sense to make that point at the beginning of the thread but not now that all the other points have been said. Go back and read all the points that have been made or don't come back.