Vitali's mythical poor resume pt 2

[Boxing Goat]

I don't understand who the vitali fans are trying to convince ... themselves maybe? It would be great if people could simply respect him for what he has done, he has proved to be the second most accomplished fighter of his era (behind his brother) and most agree that head to head he would give anybody in history a hard night. That's my stance and I believe also the stance of MOST of the so called 'haters' here.

personally I actually like and respect vits it's the obsessive 'flomo'/pactard' type fans that I have the problem with.

Bottom line is his resume is okay but unfortunately there are NO really great or defining wins on it even if you look at tyson whom people regularly shit on resume wise he had defining wins v spinks etc people can point to that and say fuck on that night I don't know who would beat him... I obv think vits would beat the likes of spinks etc but the thing is Tyson DID beat spinks ... Vitali DIDN'T. What's vitali's defining win? one fight that you can point to and say wow he was like a god that night? Vit fans never seem to answer that one question ... as everybody knows his defining fight is a brave but losing effort v lewis. Who could have beaten Vits on the defining night of Vit's career ... well an old out of shape Lewis for one .... they have to bring in the 'IF But Could have might have' shit to get around that.

maybe if there had been a rematch against lewis vits 'if but could have might won' ... thing is there WASN'T

Maybe if he hadn't been cut up VIA PUNCHES Vits 'if but could have might have won' v lewis ... thing is HE WAS.

IF He had fought Haye instead of Wlad Vits 'if but could have might have won' too ... thing is HE DIDN'T

If he fought Rachman he 'if but could have might have won'... thing is HE DIDN'T

Sure he 'if but could have might have' beaten the past prime Tyson ... thing is HE DIDN'T

Sure he 'if but could have might have' beaten Tua ... thing is HE DIDN'T

You can't call a guy a top atg based on what he 'if but could have might have' done in the same way you can't give floyd credit for beating pac simply because you think he 'if but could have might have' beaten him.

Tyson 'if but could have might have' been the greatest of all time IF Cus hadn't died etc ...

the nuthugger arguments are basically 'look at all the nobodies her dominated ... because he beat a load of them he obviously 'if but could have might have' beaten ali... therefore he's clearly the best ever and anybody who doesn't agree is a hater.'

The thread is about Vitali's resume not being weak at all. Being 15-2 in title fights against mostly top ten ranked contenders is not poor by any means. By you saying that he has the 2nd best resume in the last decade pretty much supports what me and the TS have been saying. That's all that needed to be said really.

[JAB5239]

The thread is about Vitali's resume not being weak at all. Being 15-2 in title fights against mostly top ten ranked contenders is not poor by any means. By you saying that he has the 2nd best resume in the last decade pretty much supports what me and the TS have been saying. That's all that needed to be said really.

This thread and many other prove Vits resume is weak. And by saying Vits has the second best resume in a decade at heavyweight whats really being said is the division has ******.

Don't worry about responding, but I'm gonna keep showing you the light!

[Poet682006]

This thread and many other prove Vits resume is weak. And by saying Vits has the second best resume in a decade at heavyweight whats really being said is the division has ******.

Don't worry about responding, but I'm gonna keep showing you the light!

This is funny watching him duck you :chuckle9:

[JAB5239]

This is funny watching him duck you :chuckle9:

In the immortal words of Joe Louis, "they can run, but they can't hide!"

[Poet682006]

In the immortal words of Joe Louis, "they can run, but they can't hide!"

Just remember: He's e-hard and will challenge you to a cyber fist-fight here soon :chuckle9:

[Jedi Vader]

Just remember: He's e-hard and will challenge you to a cyber fist-fight here soon :chuckle9:

[JAB5239]

Just remember: He's e-hard and will challenge you to a cyber fist-fight here soon :chuckle9:

God I hope not. Those guys scare me to death! Personally I think this one is probably getting dialysis about now or taking care of some other ailment.

[KBRO]

My bases is on them never having beaten more than ten top 10 fighters before or after Vits, combined! Its impossible to determine how good a fighter is unless he's fighting other good fighters Anybody can build a glossy record fighting second rate fighters. Take Deontay Wilder for instance He's got a pristine record. Even has a 1st round ko over a former heavyweight titlist. If he retires tomorrow do we call him one of the best from this era? Or do we more accurately say he never fought anyone good to truly evaluate how good he was? Lets not make exceptions because you want Vits comp to be better than they've proven. Were they horrible (LaMar Clark style), no? Do they make for a poor resume though? Hell yes!

The difference between all these fighters mentioned is that Klitschko is a champion & 3 times over... has double figure title defenses... has been in numerous title fights.. but yeah keep thinking that he's been fighting in some minor league boxing division that hasn't been the heavyweight division.. They have a poor resume because they don't have any belts around there waist.... they've never taken a top 5 great heavy & outboxed him. Klitschko practically has the best stoppage rate & scorecard rate in the entire history of heavyweight championship boxing... that's your resume.

All that other stuff is just opposition being thoroughly dominated in a fashion never seen before.. what other boxer has EVER outboxed all 47 of his opponents.. outslugged them... outthrown & outlanded them... never once giving an opponent 3 rds in a boxing match...certainly NOT even Mayweather can remotely claim any of the above mentioned... so keep on thinking the opponents ****** instead of realizing how much KLITSCHKO made them suck.

[JAB5239]

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The difference between all these fighters mentioned is that Klitschko is a champion & 3 times over... has double figure title defenses... has been in numerous title fights.. but yeah keep thinking that he's been fighting in some minor league boxing division that hasn't been the heavyweight division.. They have a poor resume because they don't have any belts around there waist.... they've never taken a top 5 great heavy & outboxed him. Klitschko practically has the best stoppage rate & scorecard rate in the entire history of heavyweight championship boxing... that's your resume.

They have poor resumes because they haven't fought each other PROVING they're good fighters. Nobody who know boxing cartes about some paper title, its all about who you beat. Vits best wins are over guys who beat nobodies more often than not. I've proven this beyond a reasonable doubt.

All that other stuff is just opposition being thoroughly dominated in a fashion never seen before.. what other boxer has EVER outboxed all 47 of his opponents.. outslugged them... outthrown & outlanded them... never once giving an opponent 3 rds in a boxing match...certainly NOT even Mayweather can remotely claim any of the above mentioned... so keep on thinking the opponents ****** instead of realizing how much KLITSCHKO made them suck.

Stop cheerleading. If you're going to do that we might as well call Lamar Clark an ATG heavy because he was 43-3(42) with a 91.3% which is better than Vittles.

We also might as well brand Deontay Wilder one of the very best of this era based on what he's accomplished thus far. Did you think I wouldn't notice you avoiding that question? Ducking it if you please..

[Poet682006]

They have poor resumes because they haven't fought each other PROVING they're good fighters. Nobody who know boxing cartes about some paper title, its all about who you beat. Vits best wins are over guys who beat nobodies more often than not. I've proven this beyond a reasonable doubt.

Stop cheerleading. If you're going to do that we might as well call Lamar Clark an ATG heavy because he was 43-3(42) with a 91.3% which is better than Vittles.

We also might as well brand Deontay Wilder one of the very best of this era based on what he's accomplished thus far. Did you think I wouldn't notice you avoiding that question? Ducking it if you please..

Ever notice how the sockpuppet alts always crawl out of the woodwork for these threads? :chuckle9: