Vitali's mythical poor resume pt 2

[andrewa1]

To follow up on my post a couple weeks ago, Vitali is more than a year since his last fight, and with prospect of fighting a mega fight against the winner of Haye Fury looking dim now, I suspect will prove to have fought his last fight. Nevertheless, even in his semi or permanently retired state, if you look over at Boxrec's ranking of active HW's, there are currently 4 Vitali victims in the top 10, and 0 Wlad victims. Its become a trendy thing to say Vitali has a significantly weaker resume than his brother, but like so much of conventional wisdom, there's no truth to that. Even now, when Sanders and Peter, easily the best non K's of the K era, and whom he performed much more impressively than his brother, are long retired, his other opponents are still outshining WK's active opponents. Granted boxrec isn't perfect, but it is the best, most scientific ranking body out there, by far. It illustrates that those top 4 opponents have faced and beaten more top opponents than Wlad's victims have at this point, even if those they've beaten don't have the "names" that mean so much to some fans. While the hater boxing nostalgiast nonfan will keep hating (and make no mistake, most Wlad "fans" who say he has the best resume between the two really don't particularly like Wlad either, they just like to say the weaker brother had the stronger resume, thereby discrediting both brothers) I'm confident real boxing fans and boxing historians will remember Vitali for the dominant, top 10 all time great HW champ he was. Apart from having beaten the top fighters of the Klitschko era, the fact that he's the only top 25 HW to have never been knocked down, the fact he has the 2nd highest ko ratio in history, and the fact he likely has the highest rounds won percentage in history, all show what a special champ he's been.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

To follow up on my post a couple weeks ago, Vitali is more than a year since his last fight, and with prospect of fighting a mega fight against the winner of Haye Fury looking dim now, I suspect will prove to have fought his last fight. Nevertheless, even in his semi or permanently retired state, if you look over at Boxrec's ranking of active HW's, there are currently 4 Vitali victims in the top 10, and 0 Wlad victims. Its become a trendy thing to say Vitali has a significantly weaker resume than his brother, but like so much of conventional wisdom, there's no truth to that. Even now, when Sanders and Peter, easily the best non K's of the K era, and whom he performed much more impressively than his brother, are long retired, his other opponents are still outshining WK's active opponents. Granted boxrec isn't perfect, but it is the best, most scientific ranking body out there, by far. It illustrates that those top 4 opponents have faced and beaten more top opponents than Wlad's victims have at this point, even if those they've beaten don't have the "names" that mean so much to some fans. While the hater boxing nostalgiast nonfan will keep hating (and make no mistake, most Wlad "fans" who say he has the best resume between the two really don't particularly like Wlad either, they just like to say the weaker brother had the stronger resume, thereby discrediting both brothers) I'm confident real boxing fans and boxing historians will remember Vitali for the dominant, top 10 all time great HW champ he was. Apart from having beaten the top fighters of the Klitschko era, the fact that he's the only top 25 HW to have never been knocked down, the fact he has the 2nd highest ko ratio in history, and the fact he likely has the highest rounds won percentage in history, all show what a special champ he's been.

If you want to know just how special Vitali was and is, just watch his fight against Lewis. That fight was taken on 2 weeks notice and until this day I think he would have KO'd Lewis had that fight continued.

[kiDynamite92]

If you want to know just how special Vitali was and is, just watch his fight against Lewis. That fight was taken on 2 weeks notice and until this day I think he would have KO'd Lewis had that fight continued.

GTFOH he said on an interview that he prepared a year for a showdown with Lewis, Lewis was scheduled to fight someone and Vitali was on the under card. Both were in training for camps, if anything it was Lewis who was disadvantaged cause he didn't know Vitali style to well, while Vitali studied all along.

About the fight, Vitali started better but Lewis was just getting into his grove and came on strong on the last 2 rounds. Lewis was also unprepared physically for that fight, physically he didn't put in the work during the camp.

One thing I will Vitali though, he can take a good punch. If that was Wlad in there, he wouldn't have lasted 2. Wlad has the better resume but Vitali would spark him out.

[Szef]

Jab will be all over this thread in 3..2..1..

[Jam Jars]

To follow up on my post a couple weeks ago, Vitali is more than a year since his last fight, and with prospect of fighting a mega fight against the winner of Haye Fury looking dim now, I suspect will prove to have fought his last fight. Nevertheless, even in his semi or permanently retired state, if you look over at Boxrec's ranking of active HW's, there are currently 4 Vitali victims in the top 10, and 0 Wlad victims. Its become a trendy thing to say Vitali has a significantly weaker resume than his brother, but like so much of conventional wisdom, there's no truth to that. Even now, when Sanders and Peter, easily the best non K's of the K era, and whom he performed much more impressively than his brother, are long retired, his other opponents are still outshining WK's active opponents. Granted boxrec isn't perfect, but it is the best, most scientific ranking body out there, by far. It illustrates that those top 4 opponents have faced and beaten more top opponents than Wlad's victims have at this point, even if those they've beaten don't have the "names" that mean so much to some fans. While the hater boxing nostalgiast nonfan will keep hating (and make no mistake, most Wlad "fans" who say he has the best resume between the two really don't particularly like Wlad either, they just like to say the weaker brother had the stronger resume, thereby discrediting both brothers) I'm confident real boxing fans and boxing historians will remember Vitali for the dominant, top 10 all time great HW champ he was. Apart from having beaten the top fighters of the Klitschko era, the fact that he's the only top 25 HW to have never been knocked down, the fact he has the 2nd highest ko ratio in history, and the fact he likely has the highest rounds won percentage in history, all show what a special champ he's been.

According to boxrec Wlad is twice as good as Vitali because he has twice the points.

[Weltschmerz]

Some good points made by the TS. Vitali is definitely an ATG heavyweight.

[Jam Jars]

Some good points made by the TS. Vitali is definitely an ATG heavyweight.

How can he be definitely ATG when in all threads made about this more people believe he isn't, than those that think he is?

[LacedUp]

How can he be definitely ATG when in all threads made about this more people believe he isn't, than those that think he is?

Because to this guy it goes:

ATGs
1. Wlad
2. Vitali
3. Pianeta
4. Mormeck
5. Wach
6. Tony Thompson

You get the point. He doesn't know what he's talking about.

[New England]

If you want to know just how special Vitali was and is, just watch his fight against Lewis. That fight was taken on 2 weeks notice and until this day I think he would have KO'd Lewis had that fight continued.

"he could have kayod lewis if lewis didn't hit him with those legal, clean right hands that opened his eye up."


that doesn't sound silly to you?

if only lewis didn't punch the guy he could have been champion of the world.

[Weltschmerz]

How can he be definitely ATG when in all threads made about this more people believe he isn't, than those that think he is?

He's one of the most dominant champions of all time, with the second highest hw ko ratio in history. His rule and dominance speaks volumes.