Is Danny Garcias resume now better then Hattons?

[IronDanHamza]

Wow, I remember it being the talk of the time. A lot of people wanted to see it and they were asked about it quite often. Not on the levels of a mayweather pac fight or ODLH, but a big fight.

It's like saying if Cotto had beaten Mayweather that he was half retired and old. Naturally, he was past his best, but still expected to win against Hatton and failed.

Well yeah it was a relatively big fight inside the Boxing world.

I wouldn't compare it at all to handing an ATG like Mayweather his first loss.

Tszyu was very inactive and riddled with injury, and well well passed it.

I'm not denying it was a great win, it was. Just pointing out that Tszyu did have these consistent issues.

[285Kid]

No , Hattons got in the ring with both Manny and Floyd

[daggum]

i'll take prime khan and matthysse over tsyzu, urango, and maussa.

[daggum]

No , Hattons got in the ring with both Manny and Floyd

well yes if we are counting losses. i'm sure garcia could get ko'd by both as well. well not floyd lol.

[IronDanHamza]

Possibly. My point was that Hatton has more quality wins. Garcia has two thus far and a couple of decent wins.

I'm a big fan of his, but Hatton's resume is stronger. To think some say Matthysse was a better win than Tszuy...

Probably, it's still quite close though.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

yes. that still doesn't mean that he wasn't and old and half retired. i don't understand why it's such a terrible thing to think it's a fairly close call between the two. all of a sudden lucas is chopped liver?

I think more people in here are acting like Tyszu was chopped liver. What does "half-retired" even mean? He looked terrific in his fight with Mitchell months prior to the Hatton fight. Hatton beats him and he was old, injured, dead etc.

[AntonTheMeh]

Because Matthysse has never beaten a top fighter and Tszuy has. They were on two different levels, people just built Matthysse up to be superman, which he wasn't at all.

peterson isn't a top fighter now? before he got whitewashed by lucas some people thought he was arguably the best at 140 at the very least in the discussion. mathysse's name may not have had the cache that kostya's had, but mathysse was supposed to be a jr welter sonny liston. I'm not saying garcia beating matthysse is on par with hatton's win vs kostya but it's close because of matthysse reputation and "in prime-ness" imo.

[LacedUp]

Well yeah it was a relatively big fight inside the Boxing world.

I wouldn't compare it at all to handing an ATG like Mayweather his first loss.

Tszyu was very inactive and riddled with injury, and well well passed it.

I'm not denying it was a great win, it was. Just pointing out that Tszyu did have these consistent issues.

I didn't mean the actual importance or quality of the win, more the situation. There's no denying a win over Mayweather would stomp any win over Tszuy.

I agree, but I would still count it as better than Matthysse.

Probably, it's still quite close though.

I don't think so at the moment. Hatton has 2-3 more quality wins than Garcia. But i'm sure he'll get there.

[AntonTheMeh]

I think more people in here are acting like Tyszu was chopped liver. What does "half-retired" even mean? He looked terrific in his fight with Mitchell months prior to the Hatton fight. Hatton beats him and he was old, injured, dead etc.

i don't agree with that either. half retired means he had one foot out the door. he got injured preparing for the mitchell rematch, then rematch and bat mitchell, fought hatton and retired. all I'm saying and in prime lucas matthysse is fairly close to kostya at that point.

[LacedUp]

peterson isn't a top fighter now? before he got whitewashed by lucas some people thought he was arguably the best at 140 at the very least in the discussion. mathysse's name may not have had the cache that kostya's had, but mathysse was supposed to be a jr welter sonny liston. I'm not saying garcia beating matthysse is on par with hatton's win vs kostya but it's close because of matthysse reputation and "in prime-ness" imo.

Eh no? And he never was? I've never rated him, he doesn't have any legitimately top wins on his resume, so how can he be a top fighter? He's been dropped multiple times before, lost and drawn with Ortiz. His best win was Victor Cayo. I don't believe for a second he beat Khan, and even if he did, he needed the judges help and the referees. So no, he's not a top fighter.

Listen, I'm not taking any credit away from Danny. I thought Matthysse would probably win too. But either way, he's not nearly as proven as Tszuy was at the time, and it was a bigger upset when Hatton won against the p4p #3 in the world. Peterson is not top as in elite. He's a top 5-7 guy in the 140 division in my opinion, no more.