Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Marquez Got a Lucky Break in Our Fight

[Dagomba]

Okay then, by your logic if it ended the rivalry, the 4th fight technically wan't even needed seeing as how Pacquiao was 2-0-1 vs Marquez coming into.

Thanks for making that perfectly clear.

How's that my logic? Pacquiao might have been 2-0-1 but he never really won convincingly and was booed at the end of the third fight, a fight where he had every advantage possible. Marquez and Pacquiao both claimed that the fourth fight was going to seal the deal and they were right.

[HarvardBlue]

The punch wasn't lucky. The fact that Pacquiao was being overly aggressive in the waning seconds of a round he clearly won and fell into a well timed punch was dumb luck. Marquez is a slick boxer with a brawler's mentality. You don't get into a brawl with Marquez. Ask Juan Diaz or Katsidis. Mayweather put Marquez on the floor early in their match but was smart enough to stick to the game plan instead of going in for the kill. Pacquiao got into 2 brawls with Marquez and got the benefit of the doubt in one of them. In the 3rd fight they boxed a bit more, Marquez won IMO, but again Pacquiao got the benefit of the doubt. In the 4th fight he got into another brawl with a harder hitting Marquez and paid the ultimate price. The last instructions the ref give a boxer is protect yourself at all times. Even when a boxer is clearly hurt they can still punch. If you happen to get caught by someone you think you hurt the only person to blame in case you get KO'd is yourself.

[twosweethooks]

I have to admit I couldn't get past about page 5, LMAO !!!

The hate is just a bit much LOL , sorta like sitting around and know you are eating food poisoning LOL !

Pac has got to come back and KO Rios.

I hope JMM KO's Bradley !!

I HOPE then JMM will fight Pac once more to prove the 4th fight wasn't a lucky break as Pac put it , maybe that will erase his first three losses to PAC !!!! I think JMM deserves even money ! Pac will make sure of no mistakes and KO yer precious JMM !!!!!

IF that comes about and JR has not been slain by Canelo or more especially GGG

then yall can pull JR out yer ### and throw him in da ring with PAC and witness yer greatest fears

cause PAC will WHUP JR too

[hitking]

You dont get an extra point for a KD...the person knocked down loses one.

And a judge can still score a round for the person knocked down if he/she chooses, it just doesnt happen very often.

Whether the person scoring the KD is awarded an extra point or the prson KD'd loses one. When the final score is tallied, it generally results in a one point swing, and that's where I have the issue. Let's not split hairs here.

[hitking]

I have to admit I couldn't get past about page 5, LMAO !!!

The hate is just a bit much LOL , sorta like sitting around and know you are eating food poisoning LOL !

Pac has got to come back and KO Rios.

I hope JMM KO's Bradley !!

I HOPE then JMM will fight Pac once more to prove the 4th fight wasn't a lucky break as Pac put it , maybe that will erase his first three losses to PAC !!!! I think JMM deserves even money ! Pac will make sure of no mistakes and KO yer precious JMM !!!!!

IF that comes about and JR has not been slain by Canelo or more especially GGG

then yall can pull JR out yer ### and throw him in da ring with PAC and witness yer greatest fears

cause PAC will WHUP JR too

Do the world a favor. Don't reproduce.

[lfc19titles]

anyone who is not a hater can see what pac is saying

pac was beating up marquez bad, on the verge of stopping him even, but he got reckless because he was put under lots of pressure to get the ko, he had fought normally, he would have won again.

there is a reason marquez avoided the rematch, he knows 9 times out of 10, pac wins.

[hitking]

How's that my logic? Pacquiao might have been 2-0-1 but he never really won convincingly and was booed at the end of the third fight, a fight where he had every advantage possible. Marquez and Pacquiao both claimed that the fourth fight was going to seal the deal and they were right.

The 4th fight didn't seal the deal. But it definitely put JMM in the driver's seat. That said, I do think it would be very lame for JMM to walk away without giving Pac as shot to redeem himself.

[J The UnBiased]

Lol @ Unbiased being in your screen name. A Floyd fan saying this stuff are we? No way?

Look, like I said, I'm calling it straight. I'm not a huge fan of either. Marquez may not owe him a rematch in your eyes, but maybe after the 1st time Pacquiao beat JMM, which to me was the 1st fight, imagine if he had never given Juan a chance for revenge himself? We wouldn't even be having this conversation by that way of thinking. JMM was never Pacquiao's mandatory after the 1st fight so maybe Paquiao never owed him anything either. Have you ever thought of it that way before or does your dislike for Pacquiao make that impossible?

At what point did say I disliked Pacquiao you stan? If Manny never gave Juan a rematch after the 1st fight, that would be his prerogative. It wouldn't have changed how the fight looked though. Just because I feel Juan won means i'm a Manny hater lol, I get it. You're the one with the agenda here. Talking about how Juan "shoulda" got knocked out. How he was taking so much of a "beating". How Juan's wife should be "scared". You're a Pacquiao cheerleader.

[BoxingFan82]

I got no problem with the second paragraph. For the first, I'd expect them to fight if the demand is great, as it is now. Much greater than 3 or 4, both of which did very well. Not saying do it for the fans, but for the money, and the glory of retiring Pac for good. What boxer says no to an easy fight for a career best payday? And to get paid that much to beat up on career nemesis he's been chasing for 8 years? Seems like a dream to most boxers, passing just doesn't compute

How in the world can you write that Marquez has been "chasing" Pacquiao for 8 years? They've fought four times!

As for "retiring Pac for good": Marquez knocked a fighter many believe is one of the best boxers in history out cold in highlight reel fashion. After three close previous fights, if Marquez feels he has nothing left to prove, or wants an even bigger payday to give Pacquiao the opportunity to avenge what his detractors will consider to be a career-defining loss, I don't see anything wrong with that.

That Pacquiao fans are accusing Marquez of ducking a rematch is not a surprise, but let's be honest here: these fans would want to see nothing less than Pacquiao and Marquez fight each other over and over again until they get an outcome they like. Frankly, that will do little for either fighter, and even less for the sport of boxing.

[hitking]

anyone who is not a hater can see what pac is saying

pac was beating up marquez bad, on the verge of stopping him even, but he got reckless because he was put under lots of pressure to get the ko, he had fought normally, he would have won again.

there is a reason marquez avoided the rematch, he knows 9 times out of 10, pac wins.

Pac was definitely pulling ahead. But "beating JMM up badly." C'MON MAN!!!