Comments Thread For: Pacquiao: Marquez Got a Lucky Break in Our Fight

[Suavecito80]

At what point did say I disliked Pacquiao you stan? If Manny never gave Juan a rematch after the 1st fight, that would be his prerogative. It wouldn't have changed how the fight looked though. Just because I feel Juan won means i'm a Manny hater lol, I get it. You're the one with the agenda here. Talking about how Juan "shoulda" got knocked out. How he was taking so much of a "beating". How Juan's wife should be "scared". You're a Pacquiao cheerleader.

Don't waste your time. Fans like him talk about other fans but are in fact worse than the fans they crow about. I see what your saying and I agree. I guess that makes me a hater. Whatever.

[Dagomba]

The 4th fight didn't seal the deal. But it definitely put JMM in the driver's seat. That said, I do think it would be very lame for JMM to walk away without giving Pac as shot to redeem himself.

Didn't both sides agreed that a KO would seal the deal prior to the fight?

[J The UnBiased]

If I was a d*ck, I would sig that bolded quote but I'm not.

Like I said before, to him his own but Pacquiao wan't a big star until he faced Delahoya and the first two fights had nothing to do with being robbed by a star. You can't just rewrite history because you feel like it. It's 2-1-1 for Pacquiao and really should be 3-1-0 as I kindly informed you all of earlier.

I'll leave this topic at that.

You obviously do not follow the sport. But anyway, using your logic, if Maidana was to fight Broner, beat him and get robbed, it would have nothing to do with Adrien being the bigger star of the 2 right? Wrong, Adrien aint a superstar but he is a power player in the game, as was Manny after he beat Morales in that circus of a rematch, and then he went on to get the gift in his rematch with Juan. Manny was in fact then and now the bigger star.

[J The UnBiased]

While you're technically wrong with your, "KDs don't win rounds" quote, I think it points to the problem in scoring in boxing. The JMM-Pac fights are a prime example of how it is flat out ****** to give extra points for KDs. Outside of the first round, JMM pretty much dominated Pac in their first fight. But because of three KDs, it was Pac who was technically robbed because of a judges scoring era. A KD is what won the fight for Pac in the second fight in which IMO JMM should have edged him. A round is a round. You should win it or lose it. And knocking an opponent off his feet shoul't be weighed nearly as heavily as it is because it skews scorecards too dramatically, especially in cloe fights.

I never said that, I said KD's don't win fights, winning rounds do. Nevertheless, you're spot on with your post.

[RawDawgHasSpokn]

How in the world can you write that Marquez has been "chasing" Pacquiao for 8 years? They've fought four times!

As for "retiring Pac for good": Marquez knocked a fighter many believe is one of the best boxers in history out cold in highlight reel fashion. After three close previous fights, if Marquez feels he has nothing left to prove, or wants an even bigger payday to give Pacquiao the opportunity to avenge what his detractors will consider to be a career-defining loss, I don't see anything wrong with that.

That Pacquiao fans are accusing Marquez of ducking a rematch is not a surprise, but let's be honest here: these fans would want to see nothing less than Pacquiao and Marquez fight each other over and over again until they get an outcome they like. Frankly, that will do little for either fighter, and even less for the sport of boxing.

Finally, A Good Post

[Marvellous1]

So, provide links for these claims then. I don't recall Cotto being 1st choice, Bradley was and he wanted no part of it. It wasn't money. The 1st fight sold great on PPV.

Next, do you think JMM would have wanted a rematch had he lost another close decision? You're dreaming if you think he wouldn't have.

m.espn.go.com/extra/boxing/story?storyId=8464684&src=desktop

Read the article and read it good my friend.

I can't read minds so I just go by the facts in print. Both fighters said it was the last one beforehand. I could flip reverse your questio and ask if at any time in the previous three fights, or even the fourth, Pac knocked Marquez out, would anyone be asking for a rematch?

[J The UnBiased]

Don't waste your time. Fans like him talk about other fans but are in fact worse than the fans they crow about. I see what your saying and I agree. I guess that makes me a hater. Whatever.

I guess it's rocket science lol

[hitking]

Didn't both sides agreed that a KO would seal the deal prior to the fight?

Fighters say **** all the time. Its called prefight hype. You have to lok at how the fight played out. And this particular fight played out with Pac starting to take over before getting put to sleep. From a long time fight fan, I was thinking during. the fightdamn, JMM is looking old. So even though he scored the first convincing win of the series, personally I didn't walk away feeling that he's clearly the superior fight. Thus, why I would be interested in a fifth fight.

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

They fought 4 times, 3 of the 4 were very close fights. In the final fight, that was to decide the rivalry, JMM knocked Pac out cold, face first on the canvas.

So let it go Pac fans, you are looking desperate, and honestly it's getting pathetic. JMM is the better fighter, Pac is a legend and HOFer and we need to move on.

I personally think JMM is making a mistake of fighting Bradley, not because he will lose but just because I think it would have been perfect for him to retire on that high note.

[Dagomba]

Fighters say **** all the time. Its called prefight hype. You have to lok at how the fight played out. And this particular fight played out with Pac starting to take over before getting put to sleep. From a long time fight fan, I was thinking during. the fightdamn, JMM is looking old. So even though he scored the first convincing win of the series, personally I didn't walk away feeling that he's clearly the superior fight. Thus, why I would be interested in a fifth fight.

So you're not supposed to take what they say seriously or hold them accountable? Give me a break. Everyone bashes boxers when they open their mouths and it back fires on them.

It's not that a 5th fight wouldn't be cool, I'm saying that calling JMM a b*tch for not taking the 5th fight is wrong. JMM and Pacquiao were serious about the KO it happened, had Pacquiao finished him everyone would have said that rivalry was over because Pacquiao was supposed to win. Why can't Marquez be held to the same standard when he was progressively doing better with each fight.