Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[JAB5239]

Vittles being dominated by the poll. Its official, based on his resume, Vits is not an ATG.

[beez721]

Vittles being dominated by the poll. Its official, based on his resume, Vits is not an ATG.

good. can we finally put a rest to that? for gods sake

[-Huey-]

I'd consider myself a journeyman.

[miron_lang]

I think Kenny Norton, Ernie Shavers and maybe a Gerry Cooney can go 10-0 against those guys.

[JAB5239]

I think Kenny Norton, Ernie Shavers and maybe a Gerry Cooney can go 10-0 against those guys.

What's up ? Good to see you around?

[JAB5239]

good. can we finally put a rest to that? for gods sake

Don't be a party ******...I'm having my cake and I eating it too.

I thought Vitali beat Lennox Lewis?

He was ahead on points.

[hitman smax]

Yeah im sure every other mother****er Lewis stopped in a fight he was scared to fight in a rematch as well.

Vitalli is the only person Lewis verbally agreed to rematch and then backed out. In fact, Lewis was so adament about not rematching Vitalli that he actually introduced him to his sobbing and scared mother as a way of excusing himself from fighting Vitalli.

“I’ve talked to Lennox Lewis. I tell him, ‘Lennox, keep your word. You’re a gentleman. If you promised me (a rematch), you have to keep your word.’ One time, he invited me to his office in London and said, ‘I want to talk to you directly, no lawyers, no managers, just you and me.’ I came to his office and in the room was Lennox Lewis and his mom. I talked to Lennox for one hour, his mom looked at me and scanned his eyes for a long time. It was very funny. After that discussion, the next day Lennox Lewis called me and said, ‘you know what, I don’t want to fight you.’ It’s my personal opinion that that wasn’t the opinion of Lennox Lewis, but the opinion of his mom.”

Bottom line:

Lennox Lewis was smart to avoid a rematch with Klitschko, who was in his prime at that point in his career. Lewis knew he was too old too worn to take on the younger, taller, and more energetic Klitschko again. He knew lady luck and smiled down upon him with that cut over Vitali's eye, and he'd be unlikely to be so lucky twice.

Well played, Lennox, in my opinion.

Regardless, this thread is an attempt to undermine the accomplishments of one of the greatest fighters of this era, and I reject that attempt.

Without Vitali Klitschko, and his brother, a lot of today's heavyweights would seem great.

It's not his fault that he's just that much better than anything the sport has had to offer in some time.

[miron_lang]

I thought Vitali beat Lennox Lewis?

He was ahead on points.

Beat Lennox?

Yeah he was up two points but with still about 6 rounds to go.

that's a good stoppage.


Please excuse me if you are being sarcastic Mr. Anorak

[JAB5239]

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Vitalli is the only person Lewis verbally agreed to rematch and then backed out. In fact, Lewis was so adament about not rematching Vitalli that he actually introduced him to his sobbing and scared mother as a way of excusing himself from fighting Vitalli.

Can you show me in the article where it said ANYTHING about Lewis' mother "sobbing"? So the question is, are you lying or just exaggerating to make some meaningless point?

And why is it when the Klit bro's keep their word they gave their mother not to fight each other its honorable, but when Lewis keeps his word he's frowned upon? Double standards maybe?

Bottom line:

Lennox Lewis was smart to avoid a rematch with Klitschko, who was in his prime at that point in his career. Lewis knew he was too old too worn to take on the younger, taller, and more energetic Klitschko again. He knew lady luck and smiled down upon him with that cut over Vitali's eye, and he'd be unlikely to be so lucky twice.

Well played, Lennox, in my opinion.

Lewis beat him at his worst and owed nothing. He had already planned on retirement after one more fight with either Vits or Jones. Here is the article and link to prove this.

http://www.arabnews.com/node/232555


LONDON, 6 June 2003 — World heavyweight champion Lennox Lewis says Mike Tyson is scared of him and there is no chance of a rematch between the pair. “I won’t ever fight Tyson again,” Lewis told British newspapers yesterday from his training camp in the Pocono Mountains in Pennsylvania. “That’s over. He’s seriously scared of me and his time has passed,” added the Briton, who will fight for the first time in more than a year when he takes on Canadian Kirk Johnson, 30, in Los Angeles on June 21. “He (Tyson) must have had bad dreams about the beating I gave him in Memphis last June.”

Lewis, 37, is widely accepted as the heavyweight champion after his eight-round demolition of former title-holder Tyson last year, although boxing politics means there are several versions of the crown held by different fighters. The World Boxing Council may not sanction the fight with Johnson due to objections from German-based Ukrainian Vitali Klitschko.

Lewis said he had banished thoughts of quitting the ring and believed he had two or three more meaningful fights left in him. “I have been having thoughts about retirement,” he told British newspapers. “A lot of different things happened to me in my year out of the ring. Most definitely I’ve been thinking about retiring on a last big super-fight — it could be Vitali Klitschko or Roy Jones.”

Regardless, this thread is an attempt to undermine the accomplishments of one of the greatest fighters of this era, and I reject that attempt.

Reject whatever you want, but you still have no case to dispute a single thing I've posted. All this thread is a SUCCESS at is proving how many overrate Vittles but cannot back up their claims.

Without Vitali Klitschko, and his brother, a lot of today's heavyweights would seem great.

It's not his fault that he's just that much better than anything the sport has had to offer in some time.

Lol, why don't you dazzle us and tell which fighters would "seem great" if the Klits weren't around. I can't wait to piss all over any ******ity you try and justify....if you brave enough to back up what you say.