Can you be considered an ATG when these are your 10 best wins?

[Rip Chudd]

As much as I like Vitali and think he'd stack up well against any heavyweight of any era, I just don't see ATG with that resume.

[KillerRightHook]

All those guys you listed would have beaten the **** out of Ali, Frazier and those other hyped up American Heavyweaight from the past.

With all due respect sir, your boxing knowledge stinks!


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[JAB5239]

Who is that guy in your avatar?

Gee I wanted to answer but you're banned now. Oh well!.

[HWChampion]

Why is it that everyone I've seen claim that is a Brit? :thinking9: Bear in mind I defended Frank Bruno's punching power from someone who claimed it was overrated.

PS. Forgot to put Bruno on my favorite UK fighters list.

Poet

Oh my friend it's not a race thing, I have always felt that its overrated. I think that whole era is overrated. I'm not trying to discredit either. Because I only give credit where credit is due. I coincidentally think bruno's power is overrated to a certain degree. And btw foreman> shavers

[LeG00N]

I dont see why not. If those fighters were around in the early 1900's they would all be considered HOF's. Jack Johnson built his career and legacy on worse fighters.

[JAB5239]

I dont see why not. If those fighters were around in the early 1900's they would all be considered HOF's. Jack Johnson built his career and legacy on worse fighters.

The first part is an aaumption. The second part simply isn't true. Johnson beat many ranked fighters of the era who went on to beat other ranked fighters that were many times forced to fight each other many times over. That's a big difference from Vits comp who haven't fought many of their top contemporaries. The era Johnson fought in and the duress he was under from the white establishment also plays a part in his greatness. Now if we were to get into his championship reign I'd call it overrated just as I do Dempsey's. But his resume is solid.

[JAB5239]

15 votes saying Vits resume is ATG worthy and not a single one explaining why. I expected more from those voters, but it's become clear he's no ATG. Better luck next time fella's....but I wouldn't bank on it!

[-2 Scrappy-]

Wlad's isn't any better. I don't understand why people would pretend Wlad's is that much better then his brother. Atleast Vital went toe to toe war with an ATG in Lewis. Is this because Wlad beat Haye who really hasn't done anything at Heavyweight either besides cry about a broken toe?

Vital is more exciting so I lean towards him. I don't see that big of a difference between him and Wlad's resumes to be honest.

[JAB5239]

Wlad's isn't any better. I don't understand why people would pretend Wlad's is that much better then his brother. Atleast Vital went toe to toe war with an ATG in Lewis. Is this because Wlad beat Haye who really hasn't done anything at Heavyweight either besides cry about a broken toe?

Vital is more exciting so I lean towards him. I don't see that big of a difference between him and Wlad's resumes to be honest.

Wlad has beaten the better fighters and been considered "the man" for far longer than Vits has.

[beez721]

Wlad's isn't any better. I don't understand why people would pretend Wlad's is that much better then his brother. Atleast Vital went toe to toe war with an ATG in Lewis. Is this because Wlad beat Haye who really hasn't done anything at Heavyweight either besides cry about a broken toe?

Vital is more exciting so I lean towards him. I don't see that big of a difference between him and Wlad's resumes to be honest.

wlads resume is much better altho h2h I think prime vit takes it