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  • carloscruz10009
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    #131
    Floyd Martinez the next logical fight, GGG is a big dude and Martinez has been getting dropped in all his last fights... Seriously?

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    • hitking
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      #132
      Originally posted by nycsmooth
      Gatti & Carlos barely fringe contenders, average guys w/severe limitations...legit? hardly...if Gatti wasn't dead he wouldn't b near hof...Sergio doesn't need catchwt as IMO, he makes '54 no problem......he'd have 2" ht & 3" reach on FM & FM would W UD 12....
      Gatti was Ring magazine's #1 ranked jr welterweight contender to then champion Ricky Hatton (who Floyd later KO'd as an undefeated figther) when Floyd fought him. He was a legit opponent.

      Baldomir was the universally recognized and lineal welterweight champ when Floyd fought him. Just because an underdog champion is holding the title doesn't make him any less legit.

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      • twosweethooks
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        #133
        WOW,, after reading and then reading the first twenty replys I must concur with most of the first twenty replys.

        I am astonished at "MOVEMENT" to protect and preserve Mayweather JR.

        He has been handed opponents on a SILVER PLATTER and when we want to see him make a legit defense of his nonsense we get THIS, not just from his fans but from a writer, which if that floats yer boat then float it.

        but the same applys to the fans and writers that use the words "idiocy" "silly"

        Mister Lyle : Please sir tell us the PRIME ELITE WELTER WEIGHT fighter that JR has fought that "DEFINES" him as an All time great.

        JR was a good light weight champ, he was beaten in the first Castillo fight, right ? AHA !!! We must be fair Mister LYLE.

        We must be fair and cannot protect when one is to be crowned an all time great !

        Like for instance what is the Criteria ??? I say we can start with the QUALITY OF OPPONENTS !!!!!!!!!

        The list you gave are sorely found WANTING

        For this REASON

        WE want to see JR in a real to LIFE FIGHT, a fight for REAL , not just names but PRIME ELITES

        Poor JC has law problems , health problems , and JR seized the moment

        and Gatti ???????? We all loved Gatti but we all knew it would be a Killing, he was WORN out yet you would not acknowledge that ???????

        What is this that JR must be PROTECTED and PRESERVED ????

        Somebody tell me WHY?

        WE ALLLLLLLLLLLL know that JR loves to fight the broken, worn out OLD ELITES in their days and Sergio is getting there fast.

        WHY didn't JR take the Challenge and face him a few years ago ?

        NOW we have TRIPLE G and you mock him, he is PRIME, he is ELITE, he said he can come down to JR's weight of 154 and fight him there !!

        JR has been truly challenged by a PRIME ELITE

        if he gets by Canelo then if there are any balls then by all means forget Sergio and face a true Threat.

        GO WHUP GGG and then he might be considered one of the all time greats.

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        • hitking
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          #134
          Originally posted by twosweethooks
          WOW,, after reading and then reading the first twenty replys I must concur with most of the first twenty replys.

          I am astonished at "MOVEMENT" to protect and preserve Mayweather JR.

          He has been handed opponents on a SILVER PLATTER and when we want to see him make a legit defense of his nonsense we get THIS, not just from his fans but from a writer, which if that floats yer boat then float it.

          but the same applys to the fans and writers that use the words "idiocy" "silly"

          Mister Lyle : Please sir tell us the PRIME ELITE WELTER WEIGHT fighter that JR has fought that "DEFINES" him as an All time great.

          JR was a good light weight champ, he was beaten in the first Castillo fight, right ? AHA !!! We must be fair Mister LYLE.

          We must be fair and cannot protect when one is to be crowned an all time great !

          Like for instance what is the Criteria ??? I say we can start with the QUALITY OF OPPONENTS !!!!!!!!!

          The list you gave are sorely found WANTING

          For this REASON

          WE want to see JR in a real to LIFE FIGHT, a fight for REAL , not just names but PRIME ELITES

          Poor JC has law problems , health problems , and JR seized the moment

          and Gatti ???????? We all loved Gatti but we all knew it would be a Killing, he was WORN out yet you would not acknowledge that ???????

          What is this that JR must be PROTECTED and PRESERVED ????

          Somebody tell me WHY?

          WE ALLLLLLLLLLLL know that JR loves to fight the broken, worn out OLD ELITES in their days and Sergio is getting there fast.

          WHY didn't JR take the Challenge and face him a few years ago ?

          NOW we have TRIPLE G and you mock him, he is PRIME, he is ELITE, he said he can come down to JR's weight of 154 and fight him there !!

          JR has been truly challenged by a PRIME ELITE

          if he gets by Canelo then if there are any balls then by all means forget Sergio and face a true Threat.

          GO WHUP GGG and then he might be considered one of the all time greats.
          You my friend are a ****in' moron. Just thought you should know.

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          • KickAzz
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            #135
            Originally posted by hitking
            Most of the same people who won't give Floyd credit for beating Ginger because of the catchweight annointed Manny the GOAT for beating DLH (not technically a catchweight fight but 147 was far below DLH's comfortable fighting weight), Cotto, and Margarito at catchweights. The catchweight has nothing to do with Floyd not getting credit for the win. People don't like him and will **** on everything he does.
            LOLs, so Pac deserves criticism for making catchweights, but Cherrypicker doesn't. Hypocrite

            Originally posted by BoxingFollower
            See how crazy that sounds.
            The guy they are saying would beat the crap out of May and GGG..
            is a cherry pick for 1 and not for the other.

            If anything it should be a cherry pick for GGG since he is atlest a MW when Mayweather is nothing more than a old WW.
            Its not a cherrypick for GGG because GGG is still largely unproven. GGG just has tremendous upside. Martinez is past prime now. The expectation is that GGG would good boy Martinez. So its not necessarily a cherrypick for GGG.

            It would be a cherrypick for Floyd because Martinez is past his prime, and Floyd waited for Martinez to be ripe for the picking before he fought Martinez. He would've gotten a lot more credit if Martinez didn't have that poor showing against Murray, but then again, Floyd wouldn't even want to fight Martinez if Martinez didn't struggle, hence the cherrypick.

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            • I Love Jesus!
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              #136
              Originally posted by twosweethooks
              WOW,, after reading and then reading the first twenty replys I must concur with most of the first twenty replys.

              I am astonished at "MOVEMENT" to protect and preserve Mayweather JR.

              He has been handed opponents on a SILVER PLATTER and when we want to see him make a legit defense of his nonsense we get THIS, not just from his fans but from a writer, which if that floats yer boat then float it.

              but the same applys to the fans and writers that use the words "idiocy" "silly"

              Mister Lyle : Please sir tell us the PRIME ELITE WELTER WEIGHT fighter that JR has fought that "DEFINES" him as an All time great.

              JR was a good light weight champ, he was beaten in the first Castillo fight, right ? AHA !!! We must be fair Mister LYLE.

              We must be fair and cannot protect when one is to be crowned an all time great !

              Like for instance what is the Criteria ??? I say we can start with the QUALITY OF OPPONENTS !!!!!!!!!

              The list you gave are sorely found WANTING

              For this REASON

              WE want to see JR in a real to LIFE FIGHT, a fight for REAL , not just names but PRIME ELITES

              Poor JC has law problems , health problems , and JR seized the moment

              and Gatti ???????? We all loved Gatti but we all knew it would be a Killing, he was WORN out yet you would not acknowledge that ???????

              What is this that JR must be PROTECTED and PRESERVED ????

              Somebody tell me WHY?

              WE ALLLLLLLLLLLL know that JR loves to fight the broken, worn out OLD ELITES in their days and Sergio is getting there fast.

              WHY didn't JR take the Challenge and face him a few years ago ?

              NOW we have TRIPLE G and you mock him, he is PRIME, he is ELITE, he said he can come down to JR's weight of 154 and fight him there !!

              JR has been truly challenged by a PRIME ELITE

              if he gets by Canelo then if there are any balls then by all means forget Sergio and face a true Threat.

              GO WHUP GGG and then he might be considered one of the all time greats.
              I'm not really sure how good Canelo is but after watching part of that S1ht gurrero fight I can see why Floyd has been so protected. He can't punch for ****. He def avoided Pac for fear of not being able to out run him like he does everyone else. Floyds great at avoiding a fight even when its right in front of him. ,maybe he just looks like crap against lefties not sure but there is a reason hes avoided any real prime dangerous fighters since JLC that much is clear

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              • Clegg
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                #137
                If any random person took a really big shit on a keyboard and hit 'send' they'd probably come up with a better article than anything Lyle Fitzsimmons has ever written.
                Last edited by Clegg; 07-05-2013, 10:03 AM.

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                • kiDynamite92
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                  #138
                  what a load of craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

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                  • richardt
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                    #139
                    I think Mayweather can find plenty of opposition without having to go to Middleweight. That may be too much of a division to jump.

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #140
                      Originally posted by Clegg
                      If any random person took a really big shit on a keyboard and hit 'send' they'd probably come up with a better article than anything Lyle Fitzsimmons has ever written.
                      look at posts 133 and 136 in this thread, My guess is thats exactly what those posters did.

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