Comments Thread For: BoxingScene Update: Pound for Pound List and Review

[HeroBando]

No, I just know how to score bouts.

He got schooled by Marquez who he tried to drag back up to welter then laid out by Marquez again. How many losses does a guy need to be out of the top 10?

As I said above, the majority of the press scores disagree with you, including both Scene editors, who scored it for Pac outright. So you gotta figure your transparent bias just may have played a role, though not necessarily. But either way, maybe if you email them your scores they may reconsider.

[bravestone]

As I said above, the majority of the press scores disagree with you, including both Scene editors, who scored it for Pac outright. So you gotta figure your transparent bias just may have played a role, though not necessarily. But either way, maybe if you email them your scores they may reconsider.

Marquez/Pac 3 wasn't voted robbery of the year by weird coincidence.

[T18Z]

So how does Manny getting outboxed, then put to sleep help his cause?

Outboxed? I assume you aren't talking about fight 4, because Pacquaio outboxed Marquez the best he ever has out of all 4 fights. Also, if Pacquaio would have been outboxed, clearly outclassed, and stopped, then you would have a point, however winning a fight and then being knocked out is slightly different, it raises questions on what may have happened if Marquez didn't land that shot.

Manny looked the best he ever had against Marquez, and I imagine despite the KO even the P4P ranking scorers can still see that. Marquez didn't dominate him, that's the point, his only recent loss is a fight he was winning in the first place.

[royjonesjrKTFO]

Take Viloria out! Replace him with Broner. Froch isn't p4p, this is not about who has the best work or resume. P4P is all about abilities, skills, talent, etc. Take Wlad out, too.

[bravestone]

Outboxed? I assume you aren't talking about fight 4, because Pacquaio outboxed Marquez the best he ever has out of all 4 fights. Also, if Pacquaio would have been outboxed, clearly outclassed, and stopped, then you would have a point, however winning a fight and then being knocked out is slightly different, it raises questions on what may have happened if Marquez didn't land that shot.

Manny looked the best he ever had against Marquez, and I imagine despite the KO even the P4P ranking scorers can still see that. Marquez didn't dominate him, that's the point, his only recent loss is a fight he was winning in the first place.

Manny over Marquez in the rematch is much better than part IV. How is winning a fight by 1 point then being KTFO the next round even compare?

[HeroBando]

Marquez/Pac 3 wasn't voted robbery of the year by weird coincidence.

over PWill Lara? no coincidence indeed, anonymous online polls are notoriously unreliable. i doubt any self respecting writer making a p4p list will disregard their own score and their peers', in favor of a poll that has this over PWill Lara

[HeroBando]

Take Viloria out! Replace him with Broner. Froch isn't p4p, this is not about who has the best work or resume. P4P is all about abilities, skills, talent, etc. Take Wlad out, too.

Russell Jr over Wlad? How about Spence, how many spots above Froch?

[T18Z]

Manny over Marquez in the rematch is much better than part IV. How is winning a fight by 1 point then being KTFO the next round even compare?

He was also winning the round, 2 seconds later he would be 2 points up. You can't comprehend the fact that Pacquaio looked impressive against Marquez, clearly. He showed that he was performing better against him than previously, but sadly got overconfident and it cost him the fight.

[RajahBell]

Here is the updated list if anyone hasn't seen it.


1) Andre Ward (26-0, 14 KO)
2) Floyd Mayweather (44-0, 26 KO);
3) Juan Manuel Marquez (55-6-1, 40 K0
4) Guillermo Rigondeaux (12-0, 8 KO)
5) Carl Froch (31-2, 22 KO)
6) Abner Mares (26-0-1, 14 KO)
7) Sergio Martinez (51-2-2, 28 KO)
8) Manny Pacquiao (54-5-2, 38 KO);
9) Roman Gonzalez (35-0, 29 KO)
10) Wladimir Klitschko (60-3, 51 KO)

It's a good list by Cliff Rold, he always has good reasoning for his choices.

[Chris Collins]

Take Viloria out! Replace him with Broner. Froch isn't p4p, this is not about who has the best work or resume. P4P is all about abilities, skills, talent, etc. Take Wlad out, too.

this is the fight game, it's not a talent show. Bravery, determination, discipline, heart, toughness, chin etc. all factor in to it, not just technical abilities and speed etc. You should actually have to prove yourself to make the list.