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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostPeople that live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones or any heavy object really. I think it is valid to point out Floyd's hypocrisy without going "full ******," ya dig? A great fight is going to be happening in September and I completely guarantee Canelo isn't going to walk into the ring at 152, even though folks like yourself think he's going to be weight drained and on an iv.
Yeah, Canelo signed the contract and seems to be fine with the arrangement. How do you feel about the lineal title of 154 being contested at 168 on fight night? Does that do anything to you except make you wish that Mayweather would move up to heavyweight so he can get the comeuppance he so richly deserves?
See, a lot of SWWs come in around 170 fight night. Why do we need to roll back to old rules, deemed unsafe, so Floyd would get his hands on another title? I doubt he could ever be in fighting shape at or below 130, and guess what, he's a SFW champ, probably his best run. Does this get erased?
You're also skirting around the historical significance of this. 1 precedent (that i know of, help me out), involving subpaper champ with the weight.
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Originally posted by HeroBando View PostOne has nothing to do with the other, he can be weight drained while still blowing up. check Rios' last 2 fights at LW. I'm not even saying he'll be drained, but what's the intent?
See, a lot of SWWs come in around 170 fight night. Why do we need to roll back to old rules, deemed unsafe, so Floyd would get his hands on another title? I doubt he could ever be in fighting shape at or below 130, and guess what, he's a SFW champ, probably his best run. Does this get erased?
You're also skirting around the historical significance of this. 1 precedent (that i know of, help me out), involving subpaper champ with the weight.
I don't think there's a historical precedent here, I think we have a historically significant fighter that's being scrutinized to such a degree that its hard to call it anything but hate.
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Originally posted by bravestone View PostMayweather
Marquez
Ward
Martinez
Rigondeaux
Wladmir
Mares
Froch
Bradley
Donaire
How it should be.
Also, where is roman gonzalez... Dont be sleepn on him, he a warrior
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Originally posted by Slip Stream View PostNo, he isn't going to be weight drained, not gonna happen. In my way of thinking the weight is much more significant to the Mayweather hater because it allows them an out when Canelo loses. You're right, a lot of SWWs come in at 170, no problem there except Floyd maintains his weight at around 147 or so. So on fight night he'll be about the same, while his competitor will be significantly heavier.
I don't think there's a historical precedent here, I think we have a historically significant fighter that's being scrutinized to such a degree that its hard to call it anything but hate.
The "fact" Floyd comes in at 147 lol (where were you in the other thread?) is immaterial when contesting for sww lineal title. Bulk up a little (JMM fight night 150), or stay out of the kitchen. But dont be calling yourself 2x and #1 at 154 if it's gotta be 152. How can you be The Man at 154 when it's gotta be 152, what does logic say?
I don't think this is a historical fight unless Canelo has DLH's talent, not just charisma. But it's a very good fight, and I've given muted props to Floyd for it. But lets just say it's tempered with a little "schadenfreude" () after all Pac CW whining, which I'm pretty sure I caught from you even after this sorry comedown. not bother to check tho
Last edited by HeroBando; 06-03-2013, 08:51 PM.
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Bravestone list is actually pretty damn near perfect, and I think most people should agree with it. Pacquiao is a great fighter but people need to realize he was KNOCKED OUT COLD! It's one thing to lose but it's how you lose, if I ever see P4P#1 Mayweather get knocked out cold like Roy Jones or Pacquiao I will not look at him as a P4P fighter anymore, it means he have been cracked and shattered.. The man that was the reason the list was created; SRR was never knocked out in any of his losses and he had almost 200 fights. Pacquiao is still great.. just hope he have the drive and confidence to claim his birthright and that is being seen as P4P #1
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Originally posted by IronDanHamza View PostI can't see how anyone can have Andre Ward at #1 when he hasn't done anything of any note since 2011.
Roman Gonzalez is one of the best up and coming fighters in the world but there is no way he has earnt a Top 10 P4P spot.
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Originally posted by Ichee View PostBravestone list is actually pretty damn near perfect, and I think most people should agree with it. Pacquiao is a great fighter but people need to realize he was KNOCKED OUT COLD! It's one thing to lose but it's how you lose, if I ever see P4P#1 Mayweather get knocked out cold like Roy Jones or Pacquiao I will not look at him as a P4P fighter anymore, it means he have been cracked and shattered.. The man that was the reason the list was created; SRR was never knocked out in any of his losses and he had almost 200 fights. Pacquiao is still great.. just hope he have the drive and confidence to claim his birthright and that is being seen as P4P #1
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