Comments Thread For: BoxingScene Update: Pound for Pound List and Review

[HeroBando]

stopping even a "drained" Dawson> Otiz, Cotto, Guerrero

Uhh why is that? Dawson was barely above Cotto p4p in at 175, he's probably not even top 5 at 168.

[Weebler I]

Still not good enough in my opinion to get in the top 5. Above Sergio who is giving away weight in every fight? Apart from his last fight which I feel Martinez lost he has dominated that division. Froch isn't even the best in his own division and only beat Kessler by 2 rounds, a guy he was expected to dominate.

Forget resume, that's not p4p, all things being equal Bradley would toy with Froch and he is nowhere to be seen. Anyway, it is what it is, just a guys opinion on something that can never really be proved. I don't know why I even posted in this thread lol

Bradley arguably lost his last fight, the ref made an error in the second round. Ditto Martinez as you point out. By contrast Froch demolished Bute and beat Kessler.

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You can't make that guarantee if you were Canelo's nutritionist. Get this: he's a growing boy, he may well be drained even at 154, so here's a ready made excuse if he loses bad. Do you doubt the same outcome at 154 anyway?

I think the outcome would be the same. This is Floyd's attempt at evening or mitigating the damage he is sure to take. Contrary to what many think, I believe this is going to be a very tough fight for Floyd regardless and Floyd knows this too. He's fighting a 22 year old who might be challenged in some areas but gravity is gravity and Floyd is 36.

The "fact" Floyd comes in at 147 lol (where were you in the other thread?) is immaterial when contesting for sww lineal title. Bulk up a little (JMM fight night 150), or stay out of the kitchen. But dont be calling yourself 2x and #1 at 154 if it's gotta be 152. How can you be The Man at 154 when it's gotta be 152, what does logic say?

Floyd won't be 147 on fight night I should have said 152 or lighter. Floyd's the man because he's taking this challenge, I'm not going to split rice paper on that. If 152 is too much for some fans to stomach they should decline this PPV and go for something they can believe in, simply and seriously. I mean, why continue to criticize a fighter that clearly everyone hates, stop buying his PPVs, he'll go the way of the Dinosaur quickly, right?

I don't think this is a historical fight unless Canelo has DLH's talent, not just charisma. But it's a very good fight, and I've given muted props to Floyd for it. But lets just say it's tempered with a little "schadenfreude" () after all Pac CW whining, which I'm pretty sure I caught from you even after this sorry comedown. not bother to check tho

This isn't a historical fight, I'm contending Mayweather is a historical fighter. And I'll give on Floyd's hypocrisy, nuff said?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Manny stays on most people's list because he got robbed in the bradley fight, and yes he got put out cold by JMM but JMM is top 5 on every list, and manny was winning the fight til he got caught with a perfect counter....

Roy jones fell off lists when tarver waxed him because tarver wasnt considered to be p4p

Manny gets credit cuz he lost to top 5 p4p jmm....

Just like JMM doesnt lose p4p points because floyd owned him for 12 rounds... It was floyd, no disgrace in losing to guys higher on p4p list...

[Weebler I]

I can't see how anyone can have Andre Ward at #1 when he hasn't done anything of any note since 2011.

He beat the best guy from the division above. You can say he was drained or whatever, but you can also say that Cotto was shot and Guerrero sucks.

[HeroBando]

I think the outcome would be the same. This is Floyd's attempt at evening or mitigating the damage he is sure to take. Contrary to what many think, I believe this is going to be a very tough fight for Floyd regardless and Floyd knows this too. He's fighting a 22 year old who might be challenged in some areas but gravity is gravity and Floyd is 36.



Floyd won't be 147 on fight night I should have said 152 or lighter. Floyd's the man because he's taking this challenge, I'm not going to split rice paper on that. If 152 is too much for some fans to stomach they should decline this PPV and go for something they can believe in, simply and seriously. I mean, why continue to criticize a fighter that clearly everyone hates, stop buying his PPVs, he'll go the way of the Dinosaur quickly, right?



This isn't a historical fight, I'm contending Mayweather is a historical fighter. And I'll give on Floyd's hypocrisy, nuff said?

Cool. I'd still bet all my points that either:

1. Floyd will be above 152 fight night
2. Or no fight night weight shown

[Weebler I]

Manny stays on most people's list because he got robbed in the bradley fight, and yes he got put out cold by JMM but JMM is top 5 on every list, and manny was winning the fight til he got caught with a perfect counter....

Don't forget that most people also believe Marquez was roided to the eyeballs by Heredia. Marquez the one-punch KO artist at 39, yeah right...

[HeroBando]

He beat the best guy from the division above. You can say he was drained or whatever, but you can also say that Cotto was shot and Guerrero sucks.

Yeah but those guys were at least somewhat legit in the division. And there's way more of a stigma around "bringing" (loaded term) guys down in weight. for good reason, it's often a bad idea. Mosley was able to yoyo between welter and sww, but wasn't really ever an effective sww. Glen Johnson did pretty good dropping down for S6, but he's impervious to pain

[The904star]

Manny stays in my top ten because i thought he dominated bradley and was dominating jmm..

Serg is not because he got beat down by Murray and should have lost, and serg looks super old and broken down

Doniare not on my list becasue he got completely dismantled in a big fight...
Manny never got dominated like those 2 did, he just walked into a huge counter right in a fight he was winning...
Just my opinion on why he on and those two off

How was many dominating the fight when he got put on his ass in the 3rd. And he gotten up from his face plant, he would be down on the cards. No one should get credit for how good they looked before getting put to sleep. PAC got put out by a dude he has seem 3 times before. That alone should take him off the list. He apparently learned nothing in those 3 fights. He also got a gift decision in the 3rd.

Moving on, ward at number 1 is a joke. Floyd is dominating 2 weight classes at the same damn time. Who else is doing that? And he is still untouchable. Before the fight, all these experts and posters on this board swore Guerrero was a tough fight and he made that **** look easy. At 36!!! Come on man!

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Cool. I'd still bet all my points that either:

1. Floyd will be above 152 fight night
2. Or no fight night weight shown

Hmmmmmm, shrewd I'll get back to you this. I haven't made any bets since I've been a member here, I think its time I backup my belief with some tangible actions.