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Oscar knows just as well as anyone else here Floyd ain't fighting Canelo Floyd ain't movin up to 154 and I highly doubt it if Canelo sucks down to 147 more likely seeing Floyd fight Alexander or khan come September Canelo ain't even in the talks be for real.
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Originally posted by FURYJONES View PostHere is canelo alvarez's boxing record. Look closely at how many no name fighters he has fought in mexico the majority of his career before coming to the states and fighting. Even then he started fighting bums before he fought a notable opponent and there's only 2 notable names to claim. ( old Mosley,and a under performer in trout). But anyway notice all the Mexican in Mexico fights, the opponents were garbage look at the records. In fact some of them were like 8w 21L! SMH. Canelo is a fraud making his way up on bull ISH fights with help of de la Hoya! GTFOH what a joke! And Floyd's pose to be the cherry picker, y'all need to get the facts straight!
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date opponent W-L-D last 6 location
2013-04-20 Austin Trout 26-0-0
Alamodome, San Antonio, Texas, USA W UD 12 12
referee: Laurence Cole | judge: Rey Danseco 115-112 | judge: Stanley Christodoulou 118-109 | judge: Oren Shellenberger 116-111
WBC light middleweight title (supervisor: Jose Sulaiman)
WBA Super World light middleweight title (supervisor: Renzo Bagnariol)
Trout down in 7th rd.
2012-09-15 Josesito Lopez 30-4-0
MGM Grand, Grand Garden Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA W TKO 5 12
time: 2:55 | referee: Joe Cortez | judge: **** Flaherty | judge: Burt A. Clements | judge: Glenn Trowbridge
WBC light middleweight title (supervisor: Bob Logist)
Lopez down in rds 2,3, & 4
2012-05-05 Shane Mosley 46-7-1
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA W UD 12 12
referee: Jay Nady | judge: Jesse Reyes 119-109 | judge: Glenn Trowbridge 119-109 | judge: C.J. Ross 118-110
WBC light middleweight title
Alvarez cut over left eye in 3rd round from accidental head butt.
2011-11-26 Kermit Cintron 33-4-1
Monumental Plaza de Toros, Mexico City, Distrito Federal, Mexico W TKO 5 12
time: 2:53 | referee: Hector Afu | judge: Chris Tellez 40-35 | judge: Robert Tapper 40-35 | judge: David Bilocerkowec 40-35
WBC light middleweight title (supervisor: Michael George)
Cintron down once in the fourth round
2011-09-17 Alfonso Gomez 23-4-2
Staples Center, Los Angeles, California, USA W TKO 6 12
time: 2:36 | referee: Wayne Hedgepeth | judge: Alejandro Rochin 50-44 | judge: Ray Corona 49-45 | judge: Max DeLuca 49-45
WBC light middleweight title (supervisor: Michael George)
Gomez down in rd 1
2011-06-18 Ryan Rhodes 45-4-0
Arena VFG, Tlajomulco de Zúñiga, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 12 12
time: 0:48 | referee: Hector Afu | judge: Max DeLuca | judge: Yuji ***uchi | judge: David Sutherland
WBC light middleweight title (supervisor: Jose Manzur)
Rhodes down once in round four
2011-03-05 Matthew Hatton 41-4-2
Honda Center, Anaheim, California, USA W UD 12 12
referee: Lou Moret | judge: Raul Caiz Sr 119-108 | judge: Jack Reiss 119-108 | judge: Joel Scobie 119-108
vacant WBC light middleweight title
Alvarez was deducted a point for hitting after the break in round seven.
2010-12-04 Lovemore Ndou 48-11-2
Estadio Beto Avila, Veracruz, Veracruz, Mexico W UD 12 12
referee: Hector Afu | judge: Mauro Di Fiore 120-108 | judge: David Mendoza 120-108 | judge: Chris Tellez 119-109
WBC Silver light middleweight title (supervisor: Jose Manzur)
2010-09-18 Carlos Manuel Baldomir 45-12-6
Staples Center, Los Angeles, California, USA W KO 6 10
time: 2:58 | referee: Jose Cobian | judge: Max DeLuca | judge: James Jen-Kin | judge: Marshall Walker
WBC Silver light middleweight title
Baldomir down once in rd 6
2010-07-10 Luciano Leonel Cuello 26-1-0
Arena VFG, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 6 12
time: 1:22 | referee: Len Koivisto | judge: Gelasio Perez Huerta | judge: Thomas Nardone | judge: David Sutherland
vacant WBC Silver light middleweight title
Cuello down in rds 1 & 2
2010-05-01 Jose Miguel Cotto 31-1-1
MGM Grand, Las Vegas, Nevada, USA W TKO 9 10
time: 2:51 | referee: Tony Weeks | judge: Burt A. Clements 78-73 | judge: Patricia Morse Jarman 78-73 | judge: Glenn Trowbridge 78-73
Cotto down in rd 2.
2010-03-06 Brian Camechis 19-2-0
Palenque de la Feria, Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas, Mexico W KO 3 12
time: 0:23 | referee: Frank Garza
NABF welterweight title
Camechis down twice in the 2nd rd, once in 3rd.
2009-12-05 Lanardo Tyner 21-2-0
Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W UD 12 12
referee: Jesse Reyes | 120-108 | 119-110 | 119-110
NABF welterweight title
2009-09-15 Carlos Leonardo Herrera 21-1-0
Auditorio Siglo XXI, Puebla, Puebla, Mexico W TKO 1 10
time: 2:46 | referee: Vic Drakulich | judge: Frank Gentile | judge: Harold Laurens | judge: Raul Nieves
WBC Youth World welterweight title
Herrera down once
2009-08-08 Marat Khuzeev 18-4-1
Auditorio Benito Juárez, Zapopan, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2 10
time: 2:33 | referee: Curtis Thrasher | judge: Ed Kugler | judge: Kelly Yoh | judge: Oren Shellenberger
vacant WBC Youth World welterweight title
2009-06-06 Jeferson Luis Goncalo 19-3-3
Parque Xcaret, Cancun, Quintana Roo, Mexico W KO 9 12
time: 1:54 | referee: Russell Mora | judge: Nicolas Hidalgo 80-72 | judge: Glen Rick Crocker 80-72 | judge: Ed Kugler 80-72
NABF welterweight title
10 count waived, Goncalo down once.
2009-04-11 Michel Rosales 23-2-0
Gimnasio Niños Héroes, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W TKO 10 12
time: 2:53 | referee: Ignacio Arellano
NABF welterweight title
Rosales down in 1st rd.
2009-02-21 Euri Gonzalez 17-0-1
Auditorio Benito Juárez, Zapopan, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 11 12
time: 1:36 | referee: Vic Drakulich | judge: Raul Caiz Jr | judge: Sergio Caiz | judge: Max DeLuca
NABF welterweight title
WBO Latino welterweight title
2009-01-17 Antonio Fitch 12-1-0
Foro Scotiabank, Polanco, Distrito Federal, Mexico W TKO 1 12
time: 1:52 | referee: Jose Guadalupe Garcia
vacant NABF welterweight title
2008-12-05 Raul Pinzon 16-1-0
Miccosukee Indian Gaming Resort, Miami, Florida, USA W TKO 1 12
time: 2:30 | referee: Pat Russell | judge: Mark Streisand | judge: Peter Trematerra | judge: Michael Pernick
WBA Fedecentro welterweight title
2008-10-24 Larry Mosley 15-2-2
Morongo Casino Resort & Spa, Cabazon, California, USA W UD 10 10
referee: James Jen-Kin | judge: Ray Corona 99-91 | judge: Jerry Cantu 97-93 | judge: Marty Denkin 96-94
2008-08-02 Carlos Adan Jerez 27-9-3
Auditorio Benito Juárez, Zapopan, Jalisco, Mexico W UD 10 10
WBA Fedecentro welterweight title
2008-06-28 Miguel Vazquez 21-2-0
Palenque Calle 2, Zapopan, Jalisco, Mexico W UD 10 10
2008-06-06 Francisco Villanueva 5-17-2
Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W SD 10 10
2008-04-18 Gabriel Martinez 17-0-1
Salon Marbet Plus, Ciudad Nezahualcoyotl, México, Mexico W RTD 12 12
time: 0:10 | referee: Gelasio Perez Huerta | judge: David C. Gonzalez | judge: Obed Gonzalez | judge: Emilia Salgado
WBA Fedecentro welterweight title
Swollen cut left eye.
2008-03-14 Francisco Villanueva 4-14-2
Coliseo Olimpico de la UG, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 9 12
time: 2:32 | referee: Juan Rodriguez Orozco
Jalisco State welterweight title
2008-02-22 Axel Rodrigo Solis 3-7-2
Salon Marbet Plus, Ciudad Nezahualcoyotl, México, Mexico W KO 1 8
Body Shot
2007-12-15 Sean Holley 8-21-2
Auditorio Benito Juarez, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 2 10
2007-08-31 Ricardo Cano 13-4-3
Coliseo Olímpico, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W UD 12 12
Jalisco State welterweight title
2007-08-18 Cristian Solano 22-8-3
Coliseo Olimpico de la UG, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W UD 10 10
judge: Roberto Rodriguez Barajas 99-91 | judge: Jesus Hernandez R. 98-91 | judge: Felipe Rosales 98-92
2007-06-01 Jesus Abel Hernandez 14-4-1
Casino de los Fresnos, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W TKO 2 10
2007-05-19 Victor Marquez 2-6-0
Auditorio Benito Juarez, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 4 10
time: 1:48 | referee: Juan Rodriguez Orozco | judge: Felipe Rosales | judge: Jesus Hernandez R. | judge: Juan Jose Chavez
2007-03-30 Ivan Illescas 4-5-0
Arena-Casino Los Fresnos, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W KO 4 10
time: 2:40 | referee: Francisco "Chico" Pena
2007-03-02 Javier Martinez debut
Casino Los Fresnos, Tepic, Nayarit, Mexico W TKO 8 10
2006-12-08 Daniel Martinez 0-1-0
Arena Jalisco, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2 8
2006-09-29 Francisco Villanueva 4-5-0
Tonala, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 5 6
time: 1:20 | judge: Roberto Rodriguez Barajas | judge: Juan Jose Chavez | judge: Jesus Hernandez R.
2006-09-15 Cristian Hernandez 1-1-0
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2 6
2006-07-21 Juan Hernandez 2-2-0
Arena Coliseo, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2 6
2006-06-17 Jorge Juarez 3-5-0
Auditorio Municipal, Tijuana, Baja California, Mexico D PTS 4 4
referee: Juan Morales Lee | judge: Juan Jose De La Mora 39-37 | judge: Sandy Flores 38-38 | judge: Guillermo Ayon 37-39
2006-02-10 Pedro Lopez 0-0-1
Men´s Club, Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 1 4
2006-01-20 Miguel Vazquez debut
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico W SD 4 4
judge: Roberto Rodriguez Barajas 39-37 | judge: Jesus Hernandez R. 37-39 | judge: Juan Jose Chavez 40-37
2005-11-26 Pablo Alvarado 0-1-0
Arena Chololo Larios, Tonala, Jalisco, Mexico W KO 2 4
time: 2:25 | judge: Juan Jose Chavez | judge: Jesus Hernandez R. | judge: Roberto Rodriguez Barajas
2005-10-29 Abraham Gonzalez 0-1-0
Arena Chololo Larios, Tonala, Jalisco, Mexico W TKO 4 4
judge: Juan Jose Chavez | judge: Roberto Rodriguez Barajas | judge: Jesus Salcedo
Alvarez´ pro debut
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He has almost as many wins as Floyd and already has more KO's. Floyd has a lot of catching up to do.
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I think Oscar should really learn to shut up. Ever sense he lost to Mayweather,every fighter he put up against Mayweather lost. All those fighters were told they were the one's to beat Mayweather. They all failed. Oscar brings bad luck to them. Take a look at the last All-Access it looked like Oscar was going to pee on himself with excitement after the first round..."OH its a fight nowlol." Funny they didn't show his reaction as Mayweather was killing Guerrero with them rightslol. Guerrero aint Cotto gtfo Oscar.
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Originally posted by Grimgash View PostIt's because he makes money, he can call the shots. Oscar did the same thing to him and had him come up in weight, just like JMM did. It's all about who holds the cards and its not Canelo. If Canelo wants to continue his easy path laid out to money and stardom....he has to abide by what Floyd wants. Floyd gets paid either way like you said, and to him its business. This is how business works, he doesn't fight for you....he fights for himself. He's on record saying it so accept it like a grown ass man and move on with your life.
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Same old **** from De La Hoya.
Everytime Mayweather has a potential opponet there's always a headline here that reads like this.
"De La Hoya warns Mayweather : (insert potential opponet here) is no (insert someone Floyd recently beat the **** out of here)"
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Mayweather is not Trout either tho..Much more accurate puncher,and very strong..People I believe will be surprised at how easy May handles Alvarez..
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