Vitali's legacy

[ßringer]

This is a bit of a silly poll. Whether you like them or hate them, they will both be first ballot BHOF inductees. Personally, I like them but I don't consider it a bias.

I never cared much for Lennox Lewis but I had no problem admitting that he was a born and bred hall of famer and atg.

Being a hall of famer and being considered an "all time great" are two completely different things. Granted one is actually tangible (HOF) and the other is purely perspective, but I mean, have you seen some of the guys who've made it into the hall of fame?

[nathan_nall]

Being a hall of famer and being considered an "all time great" are two completely different things. Granted one is actually tangible (HOF) and the other is purely perspective, but I mean, have you seen some of the guys who've made it into the hall of fame?

Haha... you mean like Silvester Stallone? I see your point though. Well, I guess it depends on the term "great". Great compared to what? I know when people say that they mean against all fighters since the dawn of boxing. But my late gramps (who had been following boxing since the 30s) said that there was never a great champion that people didn't say came up during a weak division. He told me to forget about that nonsense and that its only a tool to discredit a fighter you simply don't like. People claimed Dempsey had no real competition and fought middleweights, that Patterson came up during a soft period, etc. He even said people were saying "Besides Norton and Frazier, there's no one for Ali to fight". Even you and I are old enought to remember that same song and dance about Tyson. They said Tyson was only so great because the HW division was soft.

Vitali and Wladimir would hold their own in the ring against any HW that's ever laced up. They might not win... they might lose terribly, but fom Sullivan to Lewis... they'd know they were in a fight.

[DreamFighter]

Lol, like I'm Ukranian or something. You make me laugh.
The hate is because the heavyweight champ is not black and from America.

why are white people from Europe hating on vitali because hes not black and from America. explain please.

It's obvious when people are coming out of the woodwork to discredit Vitali like this. It's pathetic really.

they all said hes pretty good. Why do you think its pathetic that they say hes pretty good.? explain please.

[DreamFighter]

that his brother has not beaten is not good enough no matter what.

why is tag team boxing ok with you? No champion is history has resorted to it.

[Jedi Vader]

Please don't use this forum as your fustration dumping ground. Here have I a very good suggestion for you : http://health.usnews.com/doctors/psychiatrists

and I should care for your opinion because... ?!

Ah I see, as usual, you both dodged my question.

[Dr.Eisenfaust]

Ah I see, as usual, you both dodged my question.

Yes I am too scared. booh...

[Simurgh]

Ah I see, as usual, you both dodged my question.

you sad hater, you can't even read... i've said that bowe has better wins and vitali's resume is not atg just a few pages before...

[JAB5239]

Simple, I don't think Vitali would have lost a fight during those retirement years. Lewis was getting beaten by Vitali, and everyone since has been utterly outclassed. If an ATG like Lewis was losing to him, nobody after that aside from his brother, who he will never fight, stood a chance.

This means most likely, he wouldn't have lost a fight since the Lewis fight.

That very well may be true, but how can you determine greatness on a question mark and just give a pass for fights not made?

And being up on the scorecards means nothing. In the end Lewis won by stoppage because he was the more durable fighter who landed the more effective punches.

[ßringer]

That very well may be true, but how can you determine greatness on a question mark and just give a pass for fights not made?

And being up on the scorecards means nothing. In the end Lewis won by stoppage because he was the more durable fighter who landed the more effective punches.

You gotta love the whole "he was up on the scorecards!" argument that seems to be employed almost exclusively by Vitali's ball washers. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for both Vitali and Wlad, but that argument (if you can even call it that) is utterly absurd.

It's like saying that Christopher Reeve was totally dominating that equestrian competition until the horse broke his fucking neck.

[JAB5239]

You gotta love the whole "he was up on the scorecards!" argument that seems to be employed almost exclusively by Vitali's ball washers. Don't get me wrong, I have the utmost respect for both Vitali and Wlad, but that argument (if you can even call it that) is utterly absurd.

It's like saying that Christopher Reeve was totally dominating that equestrian competition until the horse broke his fucking neck.

Lmao!! You're the rudest, funnist mother****er on this site! But you're 100% right.