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  • Simurgh
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    #741
    Originally posted by JAB5239

    He beat better fighters than Vitaly and was clearly more skilled. No?
    Yes and no.

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    • JAB5239
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      #742
      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
      The bolded is exactly what it is. The hate comes from that exactly and these nit-wits are too scared of ashamed to admit it. Pitiful.
      First of all these facts that have been laid out as to why Vits is not an ATG would be the same for any fighter a nuthugging core of fans was trying to make more of than what he was. Second, real boxing fans couldn't care less where a fighters from.

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        #743
        Originally posted by Simurgh
        Yes and no.

        You don't think Bowe was more skilled?

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        • Tommo1
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          #744
          I think Vitali had sharper jab and right but Bowe worked inside better.

          In fact I have Vitali and Bowe as a dead even fight!

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            #745
            Originally posted by Boxing Goat
            Uhmmmmm, WRONG!
            How many worlds do you live in? If its only one than Vits is not the world champion. If its more than one....please continue to argue!

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            • Simurgh
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              #746
              Originally posted by JAB5239

              You don't think Bowe was more skilled?
              He could do some things Vitali couldn't but overall I don't think he is more skilled.

              There are different ways looking at fighter skills. Whatever Vitali does he does it better than Bowe, but Bowe can do some things Vitali can't - like fighting inside.

              Nevertheless Vitali-Bowe prime for prime, Vitali wide UD or late stoppage.

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              • Dr.Eisenfaust
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                #747
                The thing I love about Vitali is that he is, unlike his brother, a very intuitive and instictive fighter. He has amazing reflexes and huge timing skills. Look at the beautiful right cross, left/right half hook half uppercut, straight right he throws. He devastates you with those shots and finds the accurate moment to punish you wiht it. He also has, in my opinion, a very underrated jab that he uses as a tool to control the distance and angles. Vitali's style is an excellent mix of power, accuracy, timing and sensitivity. That's just beautiful to watch.

                The only thing you can blame on him are his numerous injuries. Saying that he ducked big fights is just non-sense. Haye prefered to fight his younger brother and i believe there is a reason behind it.

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                  #748
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                  You and I know that nobody during that time would have beaten him and even when he loses it's due to injury.
                  ..that Lewis' punches gave him, yes. We all saw the fight.


                  That being said, a 22-4/5 title fight record is awesome wouldn't you say considering only 3 fighters have ever won more than 20 heavyweight title fights?
                  depends who you are fighting.

                  so. if you are admitting he would go 22-4/5 then why did you not say that initially?
                  Last edited by DreamFighter; 08-22-2013, 04:10 PM.

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                  • DreamFighter
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                    #749
                    Originally posted by "Boxing Goat
                    The bolded is exactly what it is. The hate comes from that exactly and these nit-wits are too scared of ashamed to admit it. Pitiful.
                    can you explain why, out of all the countries in the world, everyone in your eyes is 'hating on' the Ukraine? Obviously you cant. There is no reason, because there is no hate for the Ukraine. Ukraine is great country. You make Ukrainians look like idiots with your claims. Please put that aside before you make the country look blinkered.


                    Can you not see that's its the K bros and NOT the Ukraine which is the issue here?

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                      #750
                      Originally posted by Boxing Goat
                      Wladimir is currently in the 2nd longest heavyweight title reign of all time and has the 4th most defences all time. Hence, me saying if being an atg is based on resume only, he would be top 3. Duh, duh, duh........
                      What are his notable wins?

                      Originally posted by Simurgh
                      He could do some things Vitali couldn't but overall I don't think he is more skilled.

                      There are different ways looking at fighter skills. Whatever Vitali does he does it better than Bowe, but Bowe can do some things Vitali can't - like fighting inside.

                      Nevertheless Vitali-Bowe prime for prime, Vitali wide UD or late stoppage.
                      You are one of THE biggest Klitlickers on this forum.

                      Originally posted by Dr.Eisenfaust
                      The thing I love about Vitali is that he is, unlike his brother, a very intuitive and instictive fighter. He has amazing reflexes and huge timing skills. Look at the beautiful right cross, left/right half hook half uppercut, straight right he throws. He devastates you with those shots and finds the accurate moment to punish you wiht it. He also has, in my opinion, a very underrated jab that he uses as a tool to control the distance and angles. Vitali's style is an excellent mix of power, accuracy, timing and sensitivity. That's just beautiful to watch.

                      The only thing you can blame on him are his numerous injuries. Saying that he ducked big fights is just non-sense. Haye prefered to fight his younger brother and i believe there is a reason behind it.
                      :bukkake:

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