Vitali's legacy

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Weltschmerz;13671729]Well from your list you of course fail to mention his opponents achievements, merely discrediting and ridiculing them to make Vitali look a lesser fighter.

You don't mention that Solis is an Olympic gold medal winner,

Amateur has nothing to do with pro's, he had 17 measly fights.

that Peter was WBC champ, a feared knock out artist with notable wins over Toney and Maskaev,

Yes, the crude puncher who struggled with a fat middleweight and lost to cruiserweight Eddie Chambers! Great pick!

that Adamek is former two division world champ,

So when Louis or Ali beat smaller guys its a joke. When Vits does it it has meaning. Yeah, ok.

that Arreola was knocking out guys in spectacular fashion being unbeaten himself at the time and considered Americas HW hope,

Who was he knocking out? What top 10 contenders?

that Hide was two time HW champ and won just about all of his fights by KO before Vitali demolished him,

Lol, I won't even bother destroying this ridiculous propaganda...its just to funny!

or that Sanders had one of the most devastating left hands ever with which he knocked out the HW champ Wladimir before giving Vitali one of the toughest fights in his career.

Tell me again what top 10 fighters he beat before or after Wlad. I'll wait.

You agenda has been once again exposed!

Lmao, you've gotta be one of the biggest morons on this site...and that's really saying something!

[B-Bomber]

If Vitali had fought all on that list he would have had 70-80 fights. Taking out his 4 year layoff, he would have had to fight 6/7 times a year!

Obviously he can't fight everybody right! There is always gonna be a stone unturned. Even Holyfield didn't fight everybody literally!

Vitali I would tip to beat all on the list. Some of them there would have been no motivation for them to fight Vitali, early in his career. Later there would have been no motivation for Vitali to fight some of them!

Tyson - Vitali KO6
Holyfield - Vitali UD
Tua - Vitali UD
Maskaev - Vitali KO6
Rahman -Vitali UD
Ruiz - Vitali KO1
McCline - Vitali KO6
O'Quendo - Vitali KO3
Jones jr - Vitali KO3
Toney - Vitali KO4
Golota - Vitali UD
Brewster - Vitali KO5
Barret - Vitali KO3
Chagaev
Povetkin
Valuev
Dimitrenko
Chambers
Haye
Boystov
Thompson
Helenius
Pulev
Fury

Got sick of it let's cut to the chase. Only fighter he may have ducked was Rahman but I don't buy it. Vitali would have beaten that version of Rahman quite easy imo.

Only fighter I do think he'd struggle with is David Haye!

LOL

I hope you're trolling, in any case, that's amusing

For the sake of conversation, in what year would these fantasy fights take place?. And how would beating Tyson's corpse, a 40 something Holifield, the HW versions of Toney and Jones Jr make Vitali an ATG?

[JAB5239]

That Wladimir took his share of those fights. Actually, Vitali has always been so kind to his younger sibling, allowing him to keep all them belts.

So what if Wlad fought some of those guys, they were still top 10 ranked and Vits DIDN'T fight them. Its comical how you will look right past things to try and make yourself believe your hero should be considered amongst fighters who actually did fight the best.

[Weltschmerz]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;13671753]

Well from your list you of course fail to mention his opponents achievements, merely discrediting and ridiculing them to make Vitali look a lesser fighter.

This is still my argument.

Amateur has nothing to do with pro's, he had 17 measly fights.

Having a decorated Amateur background is usually mentioned when we talk pro fighters. Solis has all the talent to come with it too.

Yes, the crude puncher who struggled with a fat middleweight and lost to cruiserweight Eddie Chambers! Great pick!

Peter used to be one of the most feared HWs of this era, before the bros destroyed him.


So when Louis or Ali beat smaller guys its a joke. When Vits does it it has meaning. Yeah, ok.

I never said this.

Who was he knocking out? What top 10 contenders?

He was unbeaten and considered the next American hw.

Lol, I won't even bother destroying this ridiculous propaganda...its just to funny!

yeah, ha ha.

Tell me again what top 10 fighters he beat before or after Wlad. I'll wait.

None, but he gave the bros two of their career's toughest fights.

Lmao, you've gotta be one of the biggest morons on this site...and that's really saying something!

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[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=Weltschmerz;13671780]

This is still my argument.

And a crappy one it is.

Having a decorated Amateur background is usually mentioned when we talk pro fighters. Solis has all the talent to come with it too.

Audley Harrison.

And who exactly has Solis beaten to show he's fulfilling that talent?

Peter used to be one of the most feared HWs of this era, before the bros destroyed him.

Who was fearing him? He barely sc****d by a fat middleweight. What were his best wins before Toney? Hell, what were his best wins after Toney? In fact, why don't you just list his 5 best wins?

I never said this.

No, you've just agreed with it on more than one occasion.

He was unbeaten and considered the next American hw.

Who gives a **** if he was American or what he was seen as. WHO DID HE BEAT?

None, but he gave the bros two of their career's toughest fights.

So he beat none, but you think he should be held up as a great win? Brilliant logic there kid, just brilliant!!

[Weltschmerz]

[QUOTE=JAB5239;13671797]

And a crappy one it is.


Audley Harrison.

And who exactly has Solis beaten to show he's fulfilling that talent?




Who was fearing him? He barely sc****d by a fat middleweight. What were his best wins before Toney? Hell, what were his best wins after Toney? In fact, why don't you just list his 5 best wins?




No, you've just agreed with it on more than one occasion.



Who gives a **** if he was American or what he was seen as. WHO DID HE BEAT?




So he beat none, but you think he should be held up as a great win? Brilliant logic there kid, just brilliant!!

Solis hasn't fought big names, but he was undefeated before Vitali and considered one of the most talented contenders. Peter was indeed a feared by other fighters before he fought Wladimir in their first fight; he was undefeated and had won most of his fight by KO. Arreola had knocked out decent opponents like Travis Walker, Witherspoon, Garcia and McCline, being undefeated at the time Vitali fought him.

[Jam Jars]

[QUOTE=Weltschmerz;13671903]

Solis hasn't fought big names, but he was undefeated before Vitali and considered one of the most talented contenders. Peter was indeed a feared bby other fighters before he fought Wladimir in their first fight; he was undefeated and had won most of his fight by KO. Arreola had knocked out decent opponents like Travis Walker, Witherspoon, Garcia and McCline, being undefeated at the time Vitali fought him.

Solis injuring himself is one of Vitali's best wins? LOL

[Weltschmerz]

This is a joke of an argument since you've already claimed Vits beat who was put in front of him and that's all he could do. These fighters did the same, except their comp faced off against other top contenders time and again. That in itself makes them superior.

You know this isn't possible today with the governing bodies, promotion, etc. You have to compare in more relative terms, if you want to talk all time greatness and compare previous fighters with current. But I'm not surprised, knowing your agenda.

[Weltschmerz]

[QUOTE=Own3d;13671912]

Solis injuring himself is one of Vitali's best wins? LOL

Vitali KO'd him with a temple shot. KO1.

[Jam Jars]

[QUOTE=Weltschmerz;13671933]

Vitali KO'd him with a temple shot. KO1.

Even Vitali didn't believe that, he was angry because he thought Solis quit.