Mayweather Standards?

[Walt Liquor]

And so he shouldn't. Oscar was a much bigger WW than FMJ. If Floyd entertains a fight with SM it should be at 54 and even in that instance he shouldn't do it because he can't even make that limit after a training camp.

more excuses....sergio doesnt even come in at 160. its about risks and oscar took way more risks than floyd

[check hook]

more excuses....sergio doesnt even come in at 160. its about risks and oscar took way more risks than floyd

What excuses? I don't expect any current 147 pounders or MP to fight him either at 54 or 60. The only reason to do that is if it's a big $$$ fight. So on what planet would Floyd fight SM over Canelo at 54? Boxing is about commercial realities. That's why Hatton and JMM moved up to fight FMJ. It's why FMJ moved up and fought ODLH. It's why Cotto and Margarito moved down to fight MP.

[Walt Liquor]

Based on what exactly? If a fight with MP at 147 is legit and would have been called a legit win, then why isn't a fight with Mayweather at 47 legit? It did turn out Shane hit a wall, but nobody knew that at the time, we all thought he had a resurgence. Cotto was solid though not great win, but it's enhanced because he moved up to do it.

Based on exactly this. JMM had 2 fights prior to the Floyd fight at 135. he was like a year to a year and a half from fighting at freakin 130. Then he signs with an agreement to fight at a lower weight than 147 and floyd doesn't even try to make the agreed weight. floyd came in overweight vs a guy coming up 2 weight divisions, who was fighting 3 divisions lower not 18 months before the fight.

id say that's a joke. and you're petrified of floyd fighting martinez at 160. It would be like floyd going up to 168 to fight ward his next fight for ward's first fight after shoulder surgery.

[check hook]

Based on exactly this. JMM had 2 fights prior to the Floyd fight at 135. he was like a year to a year and a half from fighting at freakin 130. Then he signs with an agreement to fight at a lower weight than 147 and floyd doesn't even try to make the agreed weight. floyd came in overweight vs a guy coming up 2 weight divisions, who was fighting 3 divisions lower not 18 months before the fight.

id say that's a joke. and you're petrified of floyd fighting martinez at 160. It would be like floyd going up to 168 to fight ward his next fight for ward's first fight after shoulder surgery.

Why would i be petrified about it? I'd like to see it, but i live in reality, not the delusional creation you live in. If it happens it happens at 54 period and in 2014.





goodbye for now, i gtg it's getting late here and i have work tm.

[Walt Liquor]

What excuses? I don't expect any current 147 pounders or MP to fight him either at 54 or 60. The only reason to do that is if it's a big $$$ fight. So on what planet would Floyd fight SM over Canelo at 54? Boxing is about commercial realities. That's why Hatton and JMM moved up to fight FMJ. It's why FMJ moved up and fought ODLH. It's why Cotto and Margarito moved down to fight MP.

lol, but floyd could have fought manny for more than all of them.

in case you haven't noticed i don't give a *** how much floyd makes. fighting for the most money/least risk is the quickest way possible to lose me as a fan. if floyd hadn't done so, he'd be richer than he is now. and he'd be making more $. it doesn't enhance his legacy and its an excuse for him to pick less attractive opponents (which you claim he doesn't do). he does not fight the best, he doesn't even try.

If he fought manny and won in '09 he'd have broken the ppv record and be a HUUUUUUUGE crossover star all over the world.

[IMDAZED]

Oscar De La Hoya would NEVER fight a Sergio Martinez at 160. Oscar had been at 154 for several years AND had fought at 160 for a title and still made Bernard come down to a catchweight. The idea that Floyd who is a 150lber at best, should fight Martinez at 160 is just dumb. I do, however, believe the fight should be made at 154.

[IMDAZED]

lol, but floyd could have fought manny for more than all of them.

in case you haven't noticed i don't give a *** how much floyd makes. fighting for the most money/least risk is the quickest way possible to lose me as a fan. if floyd hadn't done so, he'd be richer than he is now. and he'd be making more $. it doesn't enhance his legacy and its an excuse for him to pick less attractive opponents (which you claim he doesn't do). he does not fight the best, he doesn't even try.

If he fought manny and won in '09 he'd have broken the ppv record and be a HUUUUUUUGE crossover star all over the world.

He already has the PPV record, is already a huge crossover style and yes, he could've fought Manny like Manny could've fought him. Didn't happen.

[Walt Liquor]

No way has it been cherry picking. Not even close.

It may not have been cherry picking except for JMM, but it certainly hasn't been strong.

I'd say since Cotto up until Bradley he did nothing but cherry pick. He did the same after he fought Marquez the first time for several fights as well. We all have short memories.

i wouldn't argue with this. that's fine even thought its tough to call a fight with JMM cherrypicking for manny

Well for starters the Bernard fight was at a catchweight of 156lbs. And Oscar lost. But yeah, it was ballsy. Nevertheless, Oscar is the KING of cherry picking.

oscar avoided quite a few big fights, but he took more risks than floyd as well. he fought better fighters in their primes, but he was pretty shameless. the big difference is that he did at least intersperse some legacy building fights if he could have won some of them.

[IMDAZED]

It may not have been cherry picking except for JMM, but it certainly hasn't been strong.

It definitely has been strong.

i wouldn't argue with this. that's fine even thought its tough to call a fight with JMM cherrypicking for manny

It is when he's coming off two of the worst performances of his career and is moving up two divisions (which was apparently a bad thing when Floyd had him do it).

oscar avoided quite a few big fights, but he took more risks than floyd as well. he fought better fighters in their primes, but he was pretty shameless. the big difference is that he did at least intersperse some legacy building fights if he could have won some of them.

I don't believe he took more risks at all. But since you do, let's go through things fight by fight so I see where you're coming from.

[Walt Liquor]

He already has the PPV record, is already a huge crossover style and yes, he could've fought Manny like Manny could've fought him. Didn't happen.

Check just said that floyd took all these fights for money, yet for some reason, he passed over the biggest money fight of them all.