Mayweather Standards?

[Walt Liquor]

The only two fights at 154 that are sellable as good fights for Floyd are Canelo and Trout.

Canelo beat then #4 ranked Ryan Rhodes.

Sergio at 154 isn't sellable as a good fight?


the bold proves my point. its not really a good fight AT THIS POINT, so canelo isn't sellable as a "good fight", its just a sellable fight. Now canelo with a win over trout is a different story

[Juof]

Mayweather has no business fighting martinez who ends up weighing 170+ on fight night

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cuz you're a certified moron.....

fighting real comp (prime guys at their weights) from '99-'02 and not doing so from '03-'12. I know its over your head, but I thought I'd spell it out for you.

Floyd's resume since returning has been solid. Where is your call for MP to fight prime guys at their weights??

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd still gets crap for his unimpressive competition at 140-147 from 2005/2006. But his resume prior is impressive and his resume after (since his return in 2009) is equally impressive. I'd say Manny Pacquiao has been as much and an even bigger cherry picker at certain points in his own career. As was Oscar De La Hoya...and nearly every other PPV star.

no ****in way his resume since he returned is as good as his pre-140 resume.

not even close.

Without a doubt manny has been at certain points. diaz. clottey. margs, and shane all for bullshi t belts

oscar's comp and floyd's comp isn't even comparable. not even in the same hemisphere. oscar went to 160 to fight bhop. we all know that no one in the entire universe believes floyd would ever even dream of going to 160 to fight a real champ. no way he even considers sergio there. Oscar earned the right to a few easy fights after taking some very ballsy fights. much more ballsy fights than floyd.

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Mayweather has no business fighting martinez who ends up weighing 170+ on fight night

Floyd has no business fighting at 154 period. The two times he's done so is for big money fights in ODLH (the biggest) and Cotto (the biggest outside of MP). If Floyd goes up to 54 again it will only be for Canelo. He's the only fighter who banks enough to risk moving up that high.

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no ****in way his resume since he returned is as good as his pre-140 resume.

not even close.

Without a doubt manny has been at certain points. diaz. clottey. margs, and shane all for bullshi t belts

oscar's comp and floyd's comp isn't even comparable. not even in the same hemisphere. oscar went to 160 to fight bhop. we all know that no one in the entire universe believes floyd would ever even dream of going to 160 to fight a real champ. no way he even considers sergio there. Oscar earned the right to a few easy fights after taking some very ballsy fights. much more ballsy fights than floyd.

And so he shouldn't. Oscar was a much bigger WW than FMJ. If Floyd entertains a fight with SM it should be at 54 and even in that instance he shouldn't do it because he can't even make that limit after a training camp.

[Walt Liquor]

Floyd's resume since returning has been solid. Where is your call for MP to fight prime guys at their weights??

I call it cherry picking.

Floyd's resume is not solid since his return. It's decent at best. The JMM fight should be thrown out. Turns out Shane had hit the wall, but that's not really Floyd's fault, although Shane didn't get the tune up floyd got after his long layoff.

Ortiz is meh. And Cotto at 154 is meh.

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I have no problem with someone being critical, but mostly ppl are just being hypocritical and applying a set of standards they don't bother with when discussing Floyd's main rival for the era in MP. There isn't a poster on here who thought MP was better than FMJ until he moved up and beat ODLH, Hatton and Cotto, whilst conveniently ignoring the fact that Floyd beat better versions of ODLH and Hatton earlier, and a poorer version of Cotto later, albeit at a weight that suited Cotto.

It's also a joke to call Floyd a fraud and simultaneously assert JLC is the greatest LW since whitaker. That's just constipated logic when you consider Floyd's very first fight at 135 was JLC and he rematched immediately after the controversy.

Well I don't think you can take anyone serious who calls Floyd a fraud. And there hasn't been a bigger cherry picker than Manny Pacquiao since 2009 so the hate against Floyd in that regard is just based on crap from about seven years ago.

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I call it cherry picking.

Floyd's resume is not solid since his return. It's decent at best. The JMM fight should be thrown out. Turns out Shane had hit the wall, but that's not really Floyd's fault, although Shane didn't get the tune up floyd got after his long layoff.

Ortiz is meh. And Cotto at 154 is meh.

Based on what exactly? If a fight with MP at 147 is legit and would have been called a legit win, then why isn't a fight with Mayweather at 47 legit? It did turn out Shane hit a wall, but nobody knew that at the time, we all thought he had a resurgence. Cotto was solid though not great win, but it's enhanced because he moved up to do it.

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no ****in way his resume since he returned is as good as his pre-140 resume.

not even close.

No way has it been cherry picking. Not even close.

Without a doubt manny has been at certain points. diaz. clottey. margs, and shane all for bullshi t belts

I'd say since Cotto up until Bradley he did nothing but cherry pick. He did the same after he fought Marquez the first time for several fights as well. We all have short memories.

oscar's comp and floyd's comp isn't even comparable. not even in the same hemisphere. oscar went to 160 to fight bhop. we all know that no one in the entire universe believes floyd would ever even dream of going to 160 to fight a real champ. no way he even considers sergio there. Oscar earned the right to a few easy fights after taking some very ballsy fights. much more ballsy fights than floyd.

Well for starters the Bernard fight was at a catchweight of 156lbs. And Oscar lost. But yeah, it was ballsy. Nevertheless, Oscar is the KING of cherry picking.