David Haye: Vitali has had 50 fights against nobodies

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  • IMDAZED
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    #61
    Originally posted by JAB5239
    See my post above...diversion tactic. Don't fall for it.
    I know, it's just ridiculous smh. And the funny thing is, in doing so, he's making
    Vitali look bad. Why don't you tell us more about how big bad Vitali's resume craps all over Haye's? Yeah, Vitali's a paper champ but at least his resume is better than Haye's . HOF'er? Yeah, if he rides Wlad's coattails in.

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    • The Hammer
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      #62
      Originally posted by IMDAZED
      Just what are you blabbering about? Great chin? He spent 12 rounds against Bowe looking like Amir Khan. You act like it was some toe to toe war. And do I believe Haye could last 12 rounds with a fading Bowe? Probably. Both would lose in one sided fashion and one actually did. You're all over the place. I'm not comparing Haye to Donald. I'm pointing out that Donald at best, is a decent win and no one thought he was a "threat." You're losing control.
      Donald had a good chin, he was only ever stopped once. He wasn't great, but he was at least as skilled as Haye.

      Donald was never down in his career until he fought Vitali.

      Haye was knocked down by Lolenga Mock, a little super middleweight. He was also down and almost stopped against Mormeck, down against old Monte Barrett, and stopped by Carl Thompson.

      Bowe wasn't faded at age 26 when he fought Donald. He went on to defeat Holyfield after that, and a couple of others, and then had those two fights with Golota. Haye would likely not last the distance with age 26 Bowe.

      I'm not saying Vitali's resume is great. Although he dominated some decent boxers, he also lost to the two best fighters he ever faced, and he never beat a bona fide elite opponent.

      What I am saying is Haye's accusing Vitali of fighting "50 nobodies" is very hypocritical. It's like a kid in school who has a D average calling the kid with a C average a dummy.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Freedom.
        Donald has a good chin, he was only ever stopped once. He wasn't great, but he was at least as skilled as Haye.

        Donald was never down in his career until he fought Vitali.

        Haye was knocked down by Lolenga Mock, a little super middleweight. He was also down and almost stopped against Mormeck, down against old Monte Barrett, and stopped by Carl Thompson.

        Bowe wasn't faded at age 26 when he fought Donald. He went on to defeat Holyfield after that, and a couple of others, and then had those two fights with Golota. Haye would likely not last the distance with age 26 Bowe.

        I'm not saying Vitali's resume is great. Although he dominated some decent boxers, he also lost to the two best fighters he ever faced, and he never beat a bona fide elite opponent.

        What I am saying is Haye's accusing Vitali of fighting "50 nobodies" is very hypocritical. It's like a kid in school who has a D average calling the kid with a C average a dummy.
        Ok, it's hypocritical. Both have beaten a bunch of nobodies. Happy?

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          #64
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          Ok, it's hypocritical. Both have beaten a bunch of nobodies. Happy?
          .......................

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            #65
            Originally posted by Freedom.
            Donald had a good chin, he was only ever stopped once. He wasn't great, but he was at least as skilled as Haye.

            Donald was never down in his career until he fought Vitali.

            Haye was knocked down by Lolenga Mock, a little super middleweight. He was also down and almost stopped against Mormeck, down against old Monte Barrett, and stopped by Carl Thompson.

            Bowe wasn't faded at age 26 when he fought Donald. He went on to defeat Holyfield after that, and a couple of others, and then had those two fights with Golota. Haye would likely not last the distance with age 26 Bowe.

            I'm not saying Vitali's resume is great. Although he dominated some decent boxers, he also lost to the two best fighters he ever faced, and he never beat a bona fide elite opponent.

            What I am saying is Haye's accusing Vitali of fighting "50 nobodies" is very hypocritical. It's like a kid in school who has a D average calling the kid with a C average a dummy.
            why do you hate eastern european boxers? vitali is great. do i need to post the most dominant heavyweight ever stats for you to realize this!

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              #66
              Originally posted by daggum
              why do you hate eastern european boxers? vitali is great. do i need to post the most dominant heavyweight ever stats for you to realize this!
              Watch yourself or you will end up with another "kick me" gift.

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                #67
                It is not the fault of either Klitschko that the heavyweight division has been the worst ever during their reign.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by miamike
                  It is not the fault of either Klitschko that the heavyweight division has been the worst ever during their reign.
                  You're right it isn't. They don't get fake credit though either. At the end of the day, if your best win came over Chris Arreola, you just aren't that elite.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by miamike
                    It is not the fault of either Klitschko that the heavyweight division has been the worst ever during their reign.
                    You're right, it isn't. But it is their fault they have split the competition like a tag team. How often on here do we hear nuthuggers say "Wlad already beat him" or "Vitaly already beat him" So (insert name) doesn't deserve a shot. Hell in this thread alone its already been talked about with Haye. "Wlad already embarrassed him, so why should Vitaly fight him?". I'll tell you why.....because they're not the same entity. One is a champion, the other a contender. They represent each other in name only, not for who does or doesn't get the right to fight the other.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by JAB5239
                      Watch yourself or you will end up with another "kick me" gift.
                      i'll take the risk! anyone who bashes vitali's resume doens't know sh-it about boxing!

                      FACTS about Vitali Klitschko

                      - WBC Heavyweight Champion of the world

                      - All Time Great and Hall Of Famer

                      - Has never truly lost

                      - There is no blueprint to beat him

                      - He is unbeatable

                      - He is the most dominant fighter of all time

                      - He has dominated every opponent he has ever faced

                      - 45 have tried and 45 have been dominated

                      - Has never been behind on the scorecards at the end of a fight

                      - Has never been knocked down

                      - He is the most intimidating HW of all time

                      - Greatest Heavyweight Champ KO% of all time

                      - Only man ever to be world heavyweight champ in boxing and kickboxing

                      - Vitali is 40 and is still dominating. He hasn't lost a single round in his comeback.

                      - Vitali beats any HW from any era.

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