David Haye: Vitali has had 50 fights against nobodies

[Redd Foxx]

Totally disagree.

If Klit has a great resume or even just a decent one with ATG scalps, he can walk off into the sunset and be proud of his legacy. The fact is that he can't because his resume is abject. He has everything to prove.

You said Haye would be the 51st nobody. I rest my case.

Your case? Understand, you've been arguing about something I never said. I never defended his resume so why are you trying to pretend I did? I'm not a real Vitali fan but I admire the way he has absolutely crushed B-level guys, even late in his career. Something glorious about an older dude kicking ass and giving out serve beatings. Its a shame that most HWs today are B-level but Haye fits right in with that pack.

[Cutthroat]

Sorry if you thought Herbie Hide, Kevin/Kirk Johnson were threats prior but I can assure you that the majority of the boxing world did not agree with you.

Peter wasn't even a threat either, the guy got absolutely schooled after his fight with Wlad by Toney in their 1st fight. Went on to get dropped by McCline 4x, even getting rocked by a guy like Maskaev before fighting Vitali.

[Joeyzagz]

Rahman KOd both Lennox and primes Sanders and gets no fckin credit whatsoever.

Vitali loses to lennox, and beats a past it sanders and is considered ATG.

[FrankieBruno]

Vitali is shook

[IMDAZED]

Peter wasn't even a threat either, the guy got absolutely schooled after his fight with Wlad by Toney in their 1st fight. Went on to get dropped by McCline 4x, even getting rocked by a guy like Maskaev before fighting Vitali.

I just didn't bother to go down the rest of the list. Wladimir fought a dangerous Peter. Vitali did not.

[The Hammer]

Who said that? I said don't crap on Haye without doing the same for Vitali. Crap on them both for all I care. And Larry Donald? Lord have mercy. I do have one fond memory of Larry though. It was at the Ruiz-Toney presser, one that Don King let run for hours on end. After rambling for what seemed like forever, King had every fighter on the card stand up and say some words. Toney, who was already frustrated by the length of the proceedings, grew visibly agitated by this while Freddie Roach was trying to get him to chill out. By the time it was Larry Donald's turn to speak, Toney had had enough. "Sit down and STFU! A ****ing has been and a never will be. Who the **** told you that you could talk? Just sit down and watch me collect belts, b*tch!" Larry, of course, sat down

Larry Donald had a world-class chin and went the distance with prime age 26 Rid**** Bowe. Hopefully you don't believe Haye would last the distance with Bowe?

In fact, doubt whether Haye wouldn't last 11 rounds with prime 2002 Vitali, or beat even the somewhat faded 2004 version of Holyfield.

[JAB5239]

I see posters in this thread using the diversion tactic of taking the focus of Vittles and trying to put it on Haye. If Vits wants to retire he has earned that right. If he doesn't he should keep his word and fight Haye. It makes sense both monetarily and for boxings popularity. It also makes sense because they both have a common, recent opponent and are both considered top contenders (yes, Vits is just a contender, his paper title means nothing). All this said, Vits is still the second best fighter in the division, so all the excuse making is for naught.

[damuttz112]

Larry Donald had a world-class chin and went the distance with prime age 26 Rid**** Bowe. Hopefully you don't believe Haye would last the distance with Bowe?

In fact, doubt whether Haye wouldn't last 11 rounds with prime 2002 Vitali, or beat even the somewhat faded 2004 version of Holyfield.

^^^^ Rattled.

[IMDAZED]

Larry Donald had a world-class chin and went the distance with prime age 26 Rid**** Bowe. Hopefully you don't believe Haye would last the distance with Bowe?

In fact, doubt whether Haye wouldn't last 11 rounds with prime 2002 Vitali, or beat even the somewhat faded 2004 version of Holyfield.

Just what are you blabbering about? Great chin? He spent 12 rounds against Bowe looking like Amir Khan. You act like it was some toe to toe war. And do I believe Haye could last 12 rounds with a fading Bowe? Probably not. Both would lose in one sided fashion and one actually did. You're all over the place. I'm not comparing Haye to Donald. I'm pointing out that Donald at best, is a decent win and no one thought he was a "threat." You're losing control.

[JAB5239]

Just what are you blabbering about?

See my post above...diversion tactic. Don't fall for it.