Where does Manny rank all time?

[IronDanHamza]

i consider old school athletes 1960s and below.

Well then, it conflicts what you're saying

You're saying "old school" fighters automatically get ranked higher but Roberto Duran is universally recognised as a Top 10 ATG, minimum and ranked above a long long long list of "old school" fighters and he, by your own accord, isn't an "Old school" fighter.

[Barn]

Yes in 8 years consistently fighting the top fighters apart from one or two fighters like although much bigger than him like Margarito and old SSM. ONly JMM has tessted him which is his krptonite. And Pac keeps giving him another chance thats how brave Pac is for keep facing his krptonite, even Superman steared clear of it.

Remeber this. ONly one man has tested him in 8 years of top flight competition.

Erik Morales and JMM.

There's two right there...?

Also it's not really brave if he knows the bout is rigged in his favour.

[crold1]

Well then, it conflicts what you're saying

You're saying "old school" fighters automatically get ranked higher but Roberto Duran is universally recognised as a Top 10 ATG, minimum and ranked above a long long long list of "old school" fighters and he, by your own accord, isn't an "Old school" fighter.

There are plenty of modern fighters who get love. Whitaker is often in the top 5 at Lightweight. Hopkins gets top 10 love at Middle. Floyd is one of the two best ever at 130. It's just there is only so much room to move in a room full of accomplishment.

[THE DESTROYER]

Bill GaLLO.. boxing historian.. saw henry armstrong , ali, srr, srl..

and here is what he say..

Gallo, an International Boxing Hall of Fame inductee and winner of the prestigious James J. Walker Award from the Boxing Writers Association of America, was ready to take on the always difficult challenge of comparing Pacquiao with great prizefighters from other generations. “With every good – let’s make that, great – fighter there are always comparisons. It goes way back to Jack Dempsey: Was he as good or better than Joe Louis? Was Joe Louis better than Muhammad Ali or Rocky Marciano? Who really was the greatest? Was it Ali?”
“Some fight guys might say Ali, but most still won’t hand him that special title. The thing in boxing is that when the greats are compared, it always winds up in some kind of a fierce barroom argument.”
“So now we have a gym full of great lightweights – we’ll just stick with this division for now – to compare with Pacquiao. Take these: Is he as good or better than: Tony Canzoneri? My opinion – better. Barney Ross? Better. Roberto Duran? As good or even better. What about Henry Armstrong, who held three titles at the same time? Wasn’t he in the same class in throwing punches in multitudes? Didn’t Armstrong fight somewhat like Pacquiao?”
“My answer: No. They are different fighters. While Armstrong would bury his head into his opponent’s chest, firing lefts and rights to the body and head, Pacquiao is a thinking, deliberate puncher who rarely misses. I see Pac as the better fighter.”
Gallo then, in his column, asked himself the toughest question of all – if Pacquiao is the best boxer his eyes have ever seen?
“I’m going to wind this up by asking myself this question: Okay, Mr. Boxing Man, are you telling me this Philippine Dynamo is the best you have ever seen?
“Yes, in a very long time

[Barn]

There are plenty of modern fighters who get love. Whitaker is often in the top 5 at Lightweight. Hopkins gets top 10 love at Middle. Floyd is one of the two best ever at 130. It's just there is only so much room to move in a room full of accomplishment.

Roy Jones at SMW.

Also ranked very high H2H at LHW and MW.

People are starting to give Wladimir some love as well and putting him on the border of the top 10.

[Barn]

Bill GaLLO.. boxing historian.. saw henry armstrong , ali, srr, srl..

and here is what he say..

Gallo, an International Boxing Hall of Fame inductee and winner of the prestigious James J. Walker Award from the Boxing Writers Association of America, was ready to take on the always difficult challenge of comparing Pacquiao with great prizefighters from other generations. “With every good – let’s make that, great – fighter there are always comparisons. It goes way back to Jack Dempsey: Was he as good or better than Joe Louis? Was Joe Louis better than Muhammad Ali or Rocky Marciano? Who really was the greatest? Was it Ali?”
“Some fight guys might say Ali, but most still won’t hand him that special title. The thing in boxing is that when the greats are compared, it always winds up in some kind of a fierce barroom argument.”
“So now we have a gym full of great lightweights – we’ll just stick with this division for now – to compare with Pacquiao. Take these: Is he as good or better than: Tony Canzoneri? My opinion – better. Barney Ross? Better. Roberto Duran? As good or even better. What about Henry Armstrong, who held three titles at the same time? Wasn’t he in the same class in throwing punches in multitudes? Didn’t Armstrong fight somewhat like Pacquiao?”
“My answer: No. They are different fighters. While Armstrong would bury his head into his opponent’s chest, firing lefts and rights to the body and head, Pacquiao is a thinking, deliberate puncher who rarely misses. I see Pac as the better fighter.”
Gallo then, in his column, asked himself the toughest question of all – if Pacquiao is the best boxer his eyes have ever seen?
“I’m going to wind this up by asking myself this question: Okay, Mr. Boxing Man, are you telling me this Philippine Dynamo is the best you have ever seen?
“Yes, in a very long time

Okay that's cool taking one mans opinion who I've not heard of and using it to support an argument.

He also only compares them in terms of visuals with no breakdown, he doesn't compare their greatness.

There were/are physicists who don't believe in the big **** theory you know, that doesn't mean that you can use them as an example of why it isn't true because a "physicist agrees with me".

[IronDanHamza]

There are plenty of modern fighters who get love. Whitaker is often in the top 5 at Lightweight. Hopkins gets top 10 love at Middle. Floyd is one of the two best ever at 130. It's just there is only so much room to move in a room full of accomplishment.

Absolutely.

It tends to usually people who haven't done their research who fall back on "You're just biased to old fighters because of nostalgia" etc

A lot of "Modern" fighters get's ranked highly, and rightfully so.

[The Tase]

Well then, it conflicts what you're saying

You're saying "old school" fighters automatically get ranked higher but Roberto Duran is universally recognised as a Top 10 ATG, minimum and ranked above a long long long list of "old school" fighters and he, by your own accord, isn't an "Old school" fighter.

no it doesnt not at all.

stop reaching.

[THE DESTROYER]

Emmanuel Stewart's Top ten

1: Sugar Ray Robinson – “The best welterweight ever! A Phenomenal record at a time when records were real!”
2: Muhammad Ali – “Ali fought everybody, no matter what style.”
3: Henry Armstrong – “Fought in all those divisions and was robbed in middleweight title fight when they called it a draw”
4: Willy Pep – “Just a totally amazing fighter”
5: Joe Louis – “Exemplified the world Champion”
6: Marvellous Marvin Hagler – “The best middleweight ever, no doubt!”
7: George Foreman – “So smart in his own way, and so strong.”
8: Sam Langford – “Way before his time”
9: Manny Pacquiao – “Has gone through division after division after division! Just a phenomena”
10: Roberto Duran – “The best lightweight ever!”

[IronDanHamza]

no it doesnt not at all.

stop reaching.

Reaching?

And how doesn't it? It literally does exactly that

You're saying; "Only old school fighters get ranked highly to preserve history"

Yet, Duran, who isn't an "old school" fighter, which you yourself have admitted, is universally ranked in the Top 5-10 and above many "old school" fighters.

How does this not conflict your theory?