What do you want from Canelo

[BoxingGenius27]

In other words, by the time Canelo steps up, the elite fighters will be punch drunk from each other.

We're suppose to be cool with that because he brings in money?

No one has ever done what we're asking Canelo to do now?

[2shameless]

Alvarez didn't have an AM career as far as I know and his pro career was understandably weak for some time. He was thrust into the spotlight way too early when rumored to be an opponent for Mayweather. Then his team found the easiest way to a title and used careful matchmaking to protect what is to this day still a bit of a prospect, until he's fully ready.

I understand the hate, but I'm willing to give him a bit more time. Some people seem more interested in seeing him "exposed" than watching an entertaining fight.

[Bushbaby]

once again, accomplishing in very few sentences what took me many pages.

it's hard to argue with some of these guys when they think you're only arguing with them because you're some fanboy.


it's like trying to explain something to a man who is not listening. you can know what you are talking about and have a good means of explaining it, but it's still not going to get you anywhere.

The bold, it is my experience on here to. I say something against a fan's fighter & I'm automatically a fan of the opposing fighter. They spout dumb crap like a d!cksucking fanboy & the likes without knowing what they're talking about. But I rather not watch ginger fight than watch him beating up jr welterweights. Boxing may be a business, but his career to this point has been an entire sham & a joke.

To my boy Boxing Genius, there's no need to red k the homey. Us real boxing fans who believe in the sport of boxing over the business of boxing do not need to bow down to the p-a-c-t-a-r-d level of fanhood by red k-ing, we're better than that bro.

[borikua]

I want him to fight guys in his same weight class.

[bojangles1987]

Alvarez didn't have an AM career as far as I know and his pro career was understandably weak for some time. He was thrust into the spotlight way too early when rumored to be an opponent for Mayweather. Then his team found the easiest way to a title and used careful matchmaking to protect what is to this day still a bit of a prospect, until he's fully ready.

I understand the hate, but I'm willing to give him a bit more time. Some people seem more interested in seeing him "exposed" than watching an entertaining fight.

Some people are hoping for that, but I don't think that's why most of the hate is there. Every fighter that gets blatantly protected like this gets hate, because they are shoved down our throats while being protected. I don't think Alvarez is hype, the kid has real ability, but it's possible that he will stagnate as a fighter and not be ready when Golden Boy stops overprotecting him.

[New England]

In other words, by the time Canelo steps up, the elite fighters will be punch drunk from each other.

We're suppose to be cool with that because he brings in money?

No one has ever done what we're asking Canelo to do now?

canelo will most likely fight floyd mayweather next year. he just beat miguel cotto and is the top ranked jr MW right now (even if they are BOTH WW,)

first of all i'm not asking you to love it. you have to be patient, and evidently i've got to tell you that. you cant pressure a promoter into making the wrong moves. he will not make them. if he does eventually he's going to pay for it

who is we?

promoters have never operated to please "you"

down the line you will get the fights you want. fans wanting fights is important to a promoter along the lines that it makes them more money. in that light, eventually you'll see canelo cash out and see him in the big fights.

that's how the game has always worked.

i'm curious, how long have you watched boxing?

[daggum]

if you thought canelo-ortiz was a legit fight to begin with then yea you prob think canelo-lopez is a legit fight as well. boxing insiders have a term for people who think like this. suckers.

[BoxingGenius27]

The bold, it is my experience on here to. I say something against a fan's fighter & I'm automatically a fan of the opposing fighter. They spout dumb crap like a d!cksucking fanboy & the likes without knowing what they're talking about. But I rather not watch ginger fight than watch him beating up jr welterweights. Boxing may be a business, but his career to this point has been an entire sham & a joke.

To my boy Boxing Genius, there's no need to red k the homey. Us real boxing fans who believe in the sport of boxing over the business of boxing do not need to bow down to the p-a-c-t-a-r-d level of fanhood by red k-ing, we're better than that bro.

You're right.

But like you, I've given New England plenty of green and publicly stated how I respected his posts. Everything can't be roses all the time.

If I disagree with something, I'm gonna lay the hammer and also publicly praise when I agree with something. It's called taking the good with the bad.

I've been watching boxing my whole life since I was like 5 years old. I've just reached a point to where I'm tired of fans agreeing with what these promoters do and finding a reason to defend it.

I don't know if this started with Mayweather cherry picking or what. But DLH, Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, Ali, Chavez and many others NEVER did anything like this and defended it because of business.

Anyone that advocates that, I'll have to disagree with them while we might agree on many other topics. But as a fan of the sport, I can't allow posts like New England to become a cancer and spread as an idealogy. I just can't unless I'm banned and have no choice.

But as long as I'm here, I'll publicly praise and publicly get in someone's ass if I have too. If you can't take it then oh well.

For the record, I've never accused New England of being a fan boy. EVER. But I will not advocate or agree with him making excuses and finding hidden undisclosed reasons behind GBP psyche as an excuse to ducking tough/deserving fighters. No, I won't agree to it.

[Bushbaby]

Alvarez didn't have an AM career as far as I know and his pro career was understandably weak for some time. He was thrust into the spotlight way too early when rumored to be an opponent for Mayweather. Then his team found the easiest way to a title and used careful matchmaking to protect what is to this day still a bit of a prospect, until he's fully ready.

I understand the hate, but I'm willing to give him a bit more time. Some people seem more interested in seeing him "exposed" than watching an entertaining fight.

This post suites your name bro. But Chavez jr didn't have an amateur career either & he's fighting the consensus pfp #3 fighter in the world in september. Meanwhile ginger hasn't beaten any legit jr middleweight contender yet & already has 4 title defenses.

[New England]

The bold, it is my experience on here to. I say something against a fan's fighter & I'm automatically a fan of the opposing fighter. They spout dumb crap like a d!cksucking fanboy & the likes without knowing what they're talking about. But I rather not watch ginger fight than watch him beating up jr welterweights. Boxing may be a business, but his career to this point has been an entire sham & a joke.

To my boy Boxing Genius, there's no need to red k the homey. Us real boxing fans who believe in the sport of boxing over the business of boxing do not need to bow down to the p-a-c-t-a-r-d level of fanhood by red k-ing, we're better than that bro.

again, man, i dont endorse spoonfeeding fighters when they are young. i recognize that it's part of the process and the way it has to be.

i watch hundreds of rounds of boxing every week
they dont think i want awesome fights?


the real issue i am finding under all of this:
canelo is a "world champion" by virtue of his WBC belt and people feel he should fight like a world champion

the issue is of course that he's not a real world champion. he's not even the best fighter in his division. he's still matched like a prospect and he was given (literally given,) a belt to make people more money and market him.


canelo had no amateur career and he's 21 years old. he's a prospect with a belt he doesnt deserve and people are giving him **** over it.