Why does Chad Dawson want a fight with Andre Ward so badly?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #41
    Originally posted by PrettyBoyRoy 88
    Pascal and Cloud are fighting eachother in August. None of those fights can happen.

    He just beat Hopkins.

    That's already the top 3 LHW's right there. The rest, Campillo who should be the real #3 LHW in place for Cloud, Cleverly. The rest are not even worth mentioning. Ward is possibly the best fighter from 168-Cruiser as far as accomplishments go. Dawson is second best, being LHW Ring Champion, with an underrated resume of Hopkins, Tarver 2x, Johnson 2x, Adamek, and Diaconu, Dawson has a case of claiming the best spot from 168-CW if it wasn't for his loss against Pascal. This is the best fight that can be made at 168-175 right now, it won't be Ward vs Gatti or Vazquez vs Marquez, but it's the type of fight that promoters should be putting together. Real champions fighting eachother.


    To answer your question, why he wants it that badly. Like I said before, Ward and Hopkins have some similarities, Dawson feels that if he could clearly beat Hopkins, who's still a solid fighter and beats #s 1-10 at LHW. Then Dawson feels that he can beat Ward. Dawson wants that 0, he wants to be in the P4P top 10, he wants legacy fights, he wants to fight the best. Dawson-Pascal II will come, but only Dawson beats Ward and Pascal beats Cloud. It'll happen.
    It's just a damn good matchup--too good to be true, really.

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      #42
      Originally posted by PrettyBoyRoy 88
      Pascal and Cloud are fighting eachother in August. None of those fights can happen.

      He just beat Hopkins.

      That's already the top 3 LHW's right there. The rest, Campillo who should be the real #3 LHW in place for Cloud, Cleverly. The rest are not even worth mentioning. Ward is possibly the best fighter from 168-Cruiser as far as accomplishments go. Dawson is second best, being LHW Ring Champion, with an underrated resume of Hopkins, Tarver 2x, Johnson 2x, Adamek, and Diaconu, Dawson has a case of claiming the best spot from 168-CW if it wasn't for his loss against Pascal. This is the best fight that can be made at 168-175 right now, it won't be Ward vs Gatti or Vazquez vs Marquez, but it's the type of fight that promoters should be putting together. Real champions fighting eachother.


      To answer your question, why he wants it that badly. Like I said before, Ward and Hopkins have some similarities, Dawson feels that if he could clearly beat Hopkins, who's still a solid fighter and beats #s 1-10 at LHW. Then Dawson feels that he can beat Ward. Dawson wants that 0, he wants to be in the P4P top 10, he wants legacy fights, he wants to fight the best. Dawson-Pascal II will come, but only Dawson beats Ward and Pascal beats Cloud. It'll happen.
      Good post man. I didn't realize that Pascal and Cloud had a fight lined up when I made the thread. Even if they were free, you bring up some good points.

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        #43
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Yessir. They've been looking for a long time. What happened to their Berto investment
        try my company's investment in Berto

        eesh

        Ward is the closest thing we have to an American star not named Floyd "And I ain't no Jr" Mayweather

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          #44
          Originally posted by savorduhflavor
          Yea my numbers were off, I had edited it but you got to me before I did.

          I think it was like 2.3 or something for that fight.

          But the highest license fee HBO has ever given to a WCB was I think 4 million for Hopkins-Calzaghe.

          I think the highest HBO will go is 3 mill.
          and you'd be wrong 100%

          2 million would be the starting point for Ward and even then I think it's too low

          they might get Dawson for 1.5 but I am think 2 million

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            #45
            And before i'm quoted on this particular line, where I said Ward is possibly the most accomplished fighter from 168-Cruiser. Notice I first said Dawson already beat Hopkins. So of course, i'm only talking about the available fighters for Dawson. Because it's obvious that Bernard Hopkins is the most accomplished fighter out of that bunch.


            Just before some one bites my head off for that comment.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Eaner0919
              try my company's investment in Berto

              eesh

              Ward is the closest thing we have to an American star not named Floyd "And I ain't no Jr" Mayweather
              Sorry to hear that, bro. I actually like Berto - he's real personable, friendly and his trash talk is genuine. Always been easy to deal with. And I hear he works real hard in the gym. You guys sponsored?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Mr. Fantastic
                Exactly how I see it.
                totally agree but im not to excited about the fight..bute vs froch is the one i cant wait for

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Eaner0919
                  and you'd be wrong 100%

                  2 million would be the starting point for Ward and even then I think it's too low

                  they might get Dawson for 1.5 but I am think 2 million
                  So you think HBO is gonna pay 4+ million for this card?

                  Again, you probably know more about this stuff, but I could have sworn that Hopkins-Calzaghe was the only 4+mill WCB ever.

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                    #49
                    no ducking and hiding behind a title

                    Originally posted by ABOSWORTH
                    Good post man. I didn't realize that Pascal and Cloud had a fight lined up when I made the thread. Even if they were free, you bring up some good points.
                    i think that post was gr8 too...nice to see fighters manning up and not ducking like a certain mr felix!!! i want chavez jr to get smashed by sergio in chavez's home town (yeah infront of his dad too) and i cant wait to see golovkin get his hands on sturm

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                      So you think HBO is gonna pay 4+ million for this card?

                      Again, you probably know more about this stuff, but I could have sworn that Hopkins-Calzaghe was the only 4+mill WCB ever.
                      You sure about that #? Because Hops was paid well over $2mil for that fight. Like $6mil, I think. Need to double check.

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