Why does Chad Dawson want a fight with Andre Ward so badly?

[savorduhflavor]

You sure about that #? Because Hops was paid well over $2mil for that fight. Like $6mil, I think. Need to double check.

No, I'm not positive but I could have sworn I've read that before. There was also English Television involved..

And I think it's sometimes possible for Promoters to pitch in to get fights done in situations like that.

I know Cotto-Clottey and Cotto-Foreman were around 3.5. And Cotto, even at those times, was more expensive than Ward or Dawson.

[#1Assassin]

I can't really figure this out. I would think he would want to avenge the Pascal loss, which I think he could easily do. A rematch with Pascal in Canada would be bigger than a Ward fight anywhere in the US IMO. Andre Ward isn't really that big of a name.

Do you think it's just because there really aren't many good fights at LHW? Still, I'd think he would rather fight a few guys at LHW like Pascal and Cloud. Then maybe Ward would be ready to move up to LHW and Dawson wouldn't have to move down in weight.

I have to give Chad props though. Ward is a tough fight, especially since he is willing to drop down to 168 to fight him.

cloud and pascal are fighting eachother. by the time dawson had fought hopkins and called ward out it was already a done deal.

ward does have a bigger name and brings alot of money to the table, not to mention the fact that hes #5 p4p and would move dawson up the list.

[PrettyBoyRoy 88]

Ward vs Dawson is a fight between two prime Ring/WBC champions, out of all the fights HBO has overpaid, this is the one they actually should pay the fighters a good amount of money for. I wouldn't be surprised if each get close to or more than $3million each.

[IMDAZED]

No, I'm not positive but I could have sworn I've read that before.

And I think it's sometimes possible for Promoters to pitch in to get fights done in situations like that.

I know Cotto-Clottey and Cotto-Foreman were around 3.5. And Cotto, even at those times, was more expensive than Ward or Dawson.

I'm pretty sure Hops got six mil. I think Calzaghe got close to six as well. According to the Sun, however, it was 2.5mil pounds, which would be close to $5mil. Not sure how accurate that is though. And yes, promoters can pitch in. They usually don't because they have to be able to guarantee it. I don't see ticket sales doing that in this scenario.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

I'm pretty sure Hops got six mil. I think Calzaghe got close to six as well. According to the Sun, however, it was 2.5mil pounds, which would be close to $5mil. Not sure how accurate that is though. And yes, promoters can pitch in. They usually don't because they have to be able to guarantee it. I don't see ticket sales doing that in this scenario.

The Sun

Damn man, don't give away your "Insider" sources!

[savorduhflavor]

I'm pretty sure Hops got six mil. I think Calzaghe got close to six as well. According to the Sun, however, it was 2.5mil pounds, which would be close to $5mil. Not sure how accurate that is though. And yes, promoters can pitch in. They usually don't because they have to be able to guarantee it. I don't see ticket sales doing that in this scenario.

WOW You're right......well sort of. I just did some research and according to Hauser(one of his lengthy HBO critiques) HBO put up 6.5 million for that fight. That's insane.

I'm thinking after 2007/2008 they really scaled the license fees back and that's why my thinking is so off. Cause I didn't really start to pay attention to the numbers like that until like 09. I don't think HBO puts up license fees like that anymore but, clearly, I could be wrong.

[IMDAZED]

The Sun

Damn man, don't give away your "Insider" sources!

What happens when you don't comprehend well.

[IMDAZED]

WOW You're right......well sort of. I just did some research and according to Hauser(one of his lengthy HBO critiques) HBO put up 6.5 million for that fight. That's insane.

I'm thinking after 2007/2008 they really scaled the license fees back and that's why my thinking is so off. Cause I didn't really start to pay attention to the numbers like that until like 09.

I think it actually depends on who is fighting too. I mean, have there been any recent WCB fights with boxers who command any real money? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

[PrettyBoyRoy 88]

The Sun

Damn man, don't give away your "Insider" sources!

Actually, Calzaghe had a legit interview with the Sun and that's where The Sun got the information. According to Calzaghe, it was a 50-50 split. Don't know what the purse was.

http://www.boxingscene.com/hopkins-vs-calzaghe-close-being-final--11758

[savorduhflavor]

I think it actually depends on who is fighting too. I mean, have there been any recent WCB fights with boxers who command any real money? I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Well again, going off Cotto in 2009 and 2010, according to Hauser, the clottey one was 2.65 and the Foreman one was 2.75(I'm sure Arum kicked in some for Miguel). And he was a bigger draw than either Hopkins or Calzaghe....and in that same article I sited, they paid a similar fee(6.5) for Jermain Taylor Kassim fcuking Ouma!

I think a lot of it was a mixture of the poor economy and a lack of current star power.