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  • #51
    Originally posted by New England View Post
    100%
    the higher the weight the better for martinez. it will help him take the shots, keep him from leaving his gas tank in the gym from draining for weight, and move floyd around even if he lands on the gloves.

    at 154 floyd would pick him apart rather quickly. martinez is 37 years old and he's been at or around 156-158 for some time now. i think the weight would drain him.

    if floyd wants to show a real ballsack he can fight him at 160

    walk into the ring at 153 like a boss and box the doors off of him.
    Floyd is 35. 2 years apart. Martinez doesn't have stamina issues and when he is down he comes back in a dominate fashion. Martinez is bigger, south paw, has 1 KO/KD power and is durable. While no one can ever doubt or count Floyd out. If the fight happened at 154 then Floyd would be fighting cautiously because Martinez is bigger and can ****. I never saw anyone that can beat Floyd from 147 or 154 but Martinez has a good shot if he fights smart which he knows how to do.

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    • #52
      Originally posted by slick23 View Post
      Your right on Macklin slowing down, he was forced to fight at a pace that he wasn't use to. From what I've seen of the guy in the past there was little more give and take not as much foot and head movement. That was the gameplan he tried to apply and eventually got tired doing it and that's when he really started getting caught.

      I don't expect Floyd to tire, but what he definitely wouldn't have is the kind of size Macklin brought into the ring. I think that is the issue, would he be able to handle what martinez would throw at him. Floyd , I think is skilled enough to make up for what he would lack in terms of size, buy you never know. 154 would not be that big of a deal for Martinez to get down to, and he would rehydrate to his normal fighting weight. He's not that big of a middleweight as it.
      is. The size and speed issue combined with him being a southpaw is creates major problems.

      Jeff and Roger can talk all the **** they want but at the end of the day Floyd would be in the ring with an athlete with a combination of size and speed that is not comparable to anything he has ever been in with, and that's the reality of it.
      You see the same thing I see or we are A alike on this issue. I'm reading how people are down grading Martinez because he gets hit in a boxing match but not factoring in that the guys he fought were good fighters and he KO'd all of them after going through some adversity. Posters on here know me as a guy who respects Floyd technical skill set as a fighter and though no one could take him until Sergio Martinez. Sergio Martinez has a better chance at beating Mayweather than anyone I've seen. Imagine if Martinez caught Floyd with a punch similar to what Mosley hit him with? Floyd would be asleep. Floyd is a very, very good boxer but he has been tagged cleanly before by lesser fighters than Martinez.

      I just don't see how people say Martinez has no skills or isn't that good when he is putting fighters to sleep by KO and systematically breaking them down. I think people just listen to what guys like Larry Merchant says and run with it. I analyze styles and in no way Sergio Martinez is a weak fighter. He has KO'd his last 4 opponents. Macklin got robbed in the Sturm fight,the same guy he got robbed in the De La Hoya fight and Sergio flattened Macklin. I'm not sleeping on Martinez.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by New England View Post
        floyd would beat martinez. the only thing that would keep him from being totally outclassed would be the size.

        floyd's got the sense to land shots on martinez, and he's not going to be a big puncher against a jr mw // mw but it will be enough to effect martinez, who doesnt take the shots very well

        he'd get his gloves up to block the left and roll the right hands. i really dont think martinez would land much. macklin and barker and dzinziruk threw some wrinkles in there and gave him some problems
        floyd mayweather is on another planet in terms of the skills compared to those guys. all they are is bigger.


        i think he'd finish the fight walking martinez down.
        UD
        i disagree i think martinez has a good chin, all knockdowns iv seen of him have been due to balance, saw dzinzurik hit him hard and he shook it off.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
          Yeah but all of them guys were bigger and got KO'd.
          Because they became slow and stationary at some point and Martinez took avantage of it. He didn't make any adjustment he just seized the opportunities his opponents gave him. Floyd wouldn't give him many opportunities.

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          • #55
            I'm in awe at how many think Floyd dominates Martinez. I'm almost sure Martinez's footwork bothers the smaller Floyd to no end. Floyd's the 1 that hasn't used his lately. Martinez's punches are like hammers even on the gloves. If Floyd ever finds the guts to face Martinez, I'm betting hard on him. We're not talkin Mosley, Ortiz, or Cotto here. We're talking Martinez.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by MANIAC310 View Post
              as long as it's @ 154 lbs. I agree
              No doubt. I just hope Martinez stops talking about the manny weight of 150. He keeps offering it to Floyd. No reason to offer that as manny ran away from his own catch weight demand and Floyd is fighting at 154. The fight should be at 154 if not 155 to make it more interesting. I think steward mentioned something about how the fight should be at 155.
              Last edited by WESS; 03-22-2012, 06:14 AM.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
                You see the same thing I see or we are A alike on this issue. I'm reading how people are down grading Martinez because he gets hit in a boxing match but not factoring in that the guys he fought were good fighters and he KO'd all of them after going through some adversity. Posters on here know me as a guy who respects Floyd technical skill set as a fighter and though no one could take him until Sergio Martinez. Sergio Martinez has a better chance at beating Mayweather than anyone I've seen. Imagine if Martinez caught Floyd with a punch similar to what Mosley hit him with? Floyd would be asleep. Floyd is a very, very good boxer but he has been tagged cleanly before by lesser fighters than Martinez.

                I just don't see how people say Martinez has no skills or isn't that good when he is putting fighters to sleep by KO and systematically breaking them down. I think people just listen to what guys like Larry Merchant says and run with it. I analyze styles and in no way Sergio Martinez is a weak fighter. He has KO'd his last 4 opponents. Macklin got robbed in the Sturm fight,the same guy he got robbed in the De La Hoya fight and Sergio flattened Macklin. I'm not sleeping on Martinez.
                I agree entirely with you. I'm still trying to figure out the last person Floyd fought that would give the impression that he handles Martinez rather soundly.

                Martinez is bigger, has great handspeed, footwork, & genuine 1 punch ko power. He also posses's the ability to adapt mid-fight that everyone adores about Floyd.

                He'll be bigger, (his footwork right now IMO is more effective than Floyd's). Can Floyd handle the Martinez offence that has slept middlweights? Combined with his own speed, power & southpaw stance?

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                • #58
                  Jeff sees the same **** I see. He would get his ears boxed the f-ck off. All that running around waiting for his opponent to get tired **** ain't going to work with Floyd. And dude has no f-ckin inside game.

                  Stop saying Floyd doesn't use his legs. He doesn't use them because he wants to employ a more aggressive style. And unlike some he knows how to cut the ring off.

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                  • #59
                    Maybe Jeff is right, Floyd is a special fighter, no doubt about that, but mayweathers then don't complain about Sergio calling Floyd to a fight. His camp is trash talking too.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                      Because they became slow and stationary at some point and Martinez took avantage of it. He didn't make any adjustment he just seized the opportunities his opponents gave him. Floyd wouldn't give him many opportunities.
                      That is a big excuse homie.

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