Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Floyd Would Tag Sergio Martinez All Night

[BlackSilk]

I wouldn't even bring Martinez up in the same sentence as Roy because Roy didn't normally fight wildly and awkwardly. Roy didn't just throw punches from anywhere, at any given angle, thinking it would land! Roy threw punches far more intelligently and tried to be accurate. Martinez does not! He'll throw punches off balance, he'll throw haymakers if he's hurt instead of protectin himself, he'll throw punches from anywhere, no matter how bad it is, no matter how bad it will make him look. Please don't ever say Martinez has a clone Roy Jones Jr. style! Haha.

Other than that -- I agree with everything you said. =)

By no means are I'm comparing them. Roy started that style of fighting and that’s were SM pick that up from. Even seen over seas guys do it but not like SM does. Clone as of with his hands down by his waist.

[Atreyu Khalil]

You do know he was talking bout Marquez right??

Yea i got post intertwined between tabs....my bad..I just realized that

[Bushbaby]

I agree KO'ing guys back to back is good but look at who he KO'ed...these aren't A Class fighters. Serhiy Dzinziruk? Darren Barker? Matthew Macklin who just came off a loss to Felix Sturm before he fought Martinez.

He hasn't fought any of the Top Middleweights....

Who was Kelly Pavlik??

Has Floyd ko'd any "A" class fighter? His kast 3 fights were against a lightweight, shot Mosley (though not his fault) & Ortiz. Nothing to brag about there.

The only people that felt Sturm won were 3 blind judges.

[radioraheem]

Marquez is a dog, I don't see how anybody can dislike what Marquez does. He's definitely my favorite over the past decade, and if he was closer in size than yeah he probably could outclass Sergio. I disagree with you when mentioning Sergio's hand speed. I don't how you can say he is bad technically and not agree that his hands being exceptionally quick, hell that's how he gets over his fundamental flaws. I think another thing that we miss is the guy's chin. When you have a good beard you can take more chances. No doubt he would get countered by the technically best in the sport...Floyd etc, but he keeps knocking on the door with that straight left. Sooner or later he's gonna get you. He's stopped some pretty big guys lately.

I'm not saying Martinez isn't fast. He is fast. But I think it's a stretch to say he would be the FASTEST that Mayweather has ever faced. I don't even see Martinez even being faster than Mosley.

The key reasons why he gets over despite his fundamental flaws is because he is a southpaw, has great power, and has an awkward wild style. Fighters that lack boxing skills can't deal with this. They get walked over on. Take notice too that, Pacquaio, Hamed, and Martinez -- who all have very similar wild awkward styles, with similar ring successes, were all southpaws too! You think all of this is a coincidence?

[Bushbaby]

I'm not saying Martinez isn't fast. He is fast. But I think it's a stretch to say he would be the FASTEST that Mayweather has ever faced. I don't even see Martinez even being faster than Mosley.

The key reasons why he gets over despite his fundamental flaws is because he is a southpaw, has great power, and has an awkward wild style. Fighters that lack boxing skills can't deal with this. They get walked over on. Take notice too that, Pacquaio, Hamed, and Martinez -- who all have very similar wild awkward styles, with similar ring successes, were all southpaws too! You think all of this is a coincidence?

Wrong Martinez controls distance better than Pacman & Hamed. He also adapts better than both.

Coincidentally Floyd's footwork has evaporated himself. All you guys are spouting nonsense. Floyd isn't walking Martinez down like he did to Mosley & Ortiz.

I hope you weren't the cat that claimed Mosley is better than Martinez. Shane was shot when he & Floyd fought. Martinez isn't & can let his hands go with more single shot power than anyone Floyd has faced. Beating Ortiz & beating Martinez is not the same.

[Picazo]

lets face it if this or any other fight with floys was signed.. who would br the favorite? floyd, and for damn good reason. im not crazy bout the guy but he can box and would beat martinez down.

[radioraheem]

Wrong Martinez controls distance better than Pacman & Hamed. He also adapts better than both.

Coincidentally Floyd's footwork has evaporated himself. All you guys are spouting nonsense. Floyd isn't walking Martinez down like he did to Mosley & Ortiz.

I hope you weren't the cat that claimed Mosley is better than Martinez. Shane was shot when he & Floyd fought. Martinez isn't & can let his hands go with more single shot power than anyone Floyd has faced. Beating Ortiz & beating Martinez is not the same.

Controls distance better? Martinez has no inside game. Pacquaio has no inside game. Hamed had no inside game. Adapts? 90% of these boxers cannot truly adapt because to do that requires a high boxing IQ. Meaning they are so smart, they don't need to listen to their trainer and have the ability to see things their trainer cannot. Turning on the pressure because you are losing is NOT adapting. Martinez doesn't have a high boxing IQ to adapt like a Floyd or Marquez. They are two of the few fighters today that can truly do it.

And yes, Mosley is better than Martinez. He has better boxing skills and is smarter. But I'm not sure Mosley is up for the task physically anymore these days. And Ortiz... even Ortiz has more boxing skill than Martinez! But Ortiz doesn't have the boxing IQ and is weak-minded, so I wouldn't bet on Ortiz. But Ortiz would give a boxing technician a better fight than someone like Martinez who fights wildly and doesn't even move his goddamn head. At least Ortiz tries to move his damn head sometimes.

[GRUSTLER]

Wrong Martinez controls distance better than Pacman & Hamed. He also adapts better than both.

Coincidentally Floyd's footwork has evaporated himself. All you guys are spouting nonsense. Floyd isn't walking Martinez down like he did to Mosley & Ortiz.

I hope you weren't the cat that claimed Mosley is better than Martinez. Shane was shot when he & Floyd fought. Martinez isn't & can let his hands go with more single shot power than anyone Floyd has faced. Beating Ortiz & beating Martinez is not the same.

Martinez is too big, strong and durable for Floyd to walk down. Sergio took Sergei's jab away who was known for his razor jab. As quoted by the Mayweathers (Roger in fact) that a jab can beat Floyd. I think technically Floyd Mayweather is the best but Sergio Martinez is a problem for him. That shows I'm not biased and just see it that way. Maybe he is or maybe he is not but that's how I see it.

[GRUSTLER]

Controls distance better? Martinez has no inside game. Pacquaio has no inside game. Hamed had no inside game. Adapts? 90% of these boxers cannot truly adapt because to do that requires a high boxing IQ. Meaning they are so smart, they don't need to listen to their trainer and have the ability to see things their trainer cannot. Turning on the pressure because you are losing is NOT adapting. Martinez doesn't have a high boxing IQ to adapt like a Floyd or Marquez. They are two of the few fighters today that can truly do it.

And yes, Mosley is better than Martinez. He has better boxing skills and is smarter. But I'm not sure Mosley is up for the task physically anymore these days. And Ortiz... even Ortiz has more boxing skill than Martinez! But Ortiz doesn't have the boxing IQ and is weak-minded, so I wouldn't bet on Ortiz. But Ortiz would give a boxing technician a better fight than someone like Martinez who fights wildly and doesn't even move his goddamn head. At least Ortiz tries to move his damn head sometimes.

That is bull$h!t. Look how much you contradict yourself in one post.

[LupinIII]

As far as im concerned if Floyd beats Cotto, Sergio is FLoyd next opponent, and Floyd should take responsibility on his shoulders to beat Sergio before someone beats him to it.

Floyd should stop doubting himself and his abiliities. He can beat Sergio at 154 if he dares to challenge himself. Most 147 guys if offered the chance to fight Sergio they would take it as an honour.
But FLoyd is a bit different, he is a bit sensitive and easily spooked. He needs reassuring that he will get a pat on the back if he does step up to the plate.

what your really saying is you want manny no where near floyd