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  • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
    I agree with the majority of your post but in my opinion, Sergio Martinez is a way better fighter than Manny Pacquiao and has a good technical fight game and can adjust in the ring while studying and breaking down his opponents. Mosley and Zab were and are not more of a boxer than Martinez. A true boxer can come from behind and win. Zab could never do that and Mosley against any fighter who could box and work the ring could not win. Can't believe how many people are trying to give Martinez crap when this guy is delivering. Floyd is the best technical boxer around but Martinez is a problem for him and if the fight ever happens, remember I'm the one who said it.
    The guy comes from obscurity, impresses when given an opportunity, wins a title, moves up in weight, wins another title, gets knockouts almost every time he is up to bat. Plus, he shows just enough vulnerability to make it look like the other guy has a chance, then he comes from behind to win with ease via KO or stoppage......who provides more excitement than that?

    At the end of every fight he never looks worried as these commentators try to get you to believe, they say he is worried and confused and is only throwing one punch at a time.

    I don't hear them saying that when Mayweather is throwing one punch at a time though. Martinez adapts well and would be in the best shape and the most focused he has ever been in his career against Mayweather. That would not be an easy fight for Mayweather.

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    • Originally posted by valentino23 View Post
      Really the other guy got tired and slowed down. Big props to sergio for finishing the fight, because I thought he was losing the fight esp. after the bull knock down. He showed the hart of a true champ, but I just see money picking him apart at 154, I also don't ever see him fighting above 154. For what? Go ask Roy what happen when he got out his weight class! He should have never left MW! Now his legacy won't be the same! But unlike Roy, money uses more boxing skill than athleticism, so he'll last longer!
      What fight were you watching??? Martinez was clearly dominating, just not the fashion everyone was used to. The guy was slowing down because he was recieving punishment through out the whole fight. I bet you've never put on a pair of gloves on your entire life. Martinez will be a bigger threat than floyds lasts 2 fights definitely.

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      • Originally posted by American Dream View Post
        I remember bringing up that Sergio fights with his hands down..and that Floyd would make him pay for it..this was right after the Barker fight..some ppl were trying to say Sergio only does it when hes comfortable, which is bull..cause thats how he trains as well..Im glad Jeff notices that would be one of his issues fighting Floyd as well..
        and skill vs skill..they are worlds apart..at 154, Floyd taxes that a$$..period.
        I agree that might be his down fall if he fights Floyd. Floyd can catch him coming in with the lead rights. I still feel this fight isn't gonna be a one sided ud. Martinez isn't no mosley or ortiz, and he brings what both those fighters didn't have was a good jab.

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        • Originally posted by mathed View Post
          The guy comes from obscurity, impresses when given an opportunity, wins a title, moves up in weight, wins another title, gets knockouts almost every time he is up to bat. Plus, he shows just enough vulnerability to make it look like the other guy has a chance, then he comes from behind to win with ease via KO or stoppage......who provides more excitement than that?

          At the end of every fight he never looks worried as these commentators try to get you to believe, they say he is worried and confused and is only throwing one punch at a time.

          I don't hear them saying that when Mayweather is throwing one punch at a time though. Martinez adapts well and would be in the best shape and the most focused he has ever been in his career against Mayweather. That would not be an easy fight for Mayweather.


          Nice post and I agree with you.. Martinez would be 'up' for a fight with Mayweather and come into the fight in great shape.. I think it's a dangerous fight for Floyd...

          The only thing that worries me about Martinez is that it does look like he may be slowing down a little bit, but to his credit he has been closing the show strong...

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          • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
            Floyd is 35. 2 years apart. Martinez doesn't have stamina issues and when he is down he comes back in a dominate fashion. Martinez is bigger, south paw, has 1 KO/KD power and is durable. While no one can ever doubt or count Floyd out. If the fight happened at 154 then Floyd would be fighting cautiously because Martinez is bigger and can ****. I never saw anyone that can beat Floyd from 147 or 154 but Martinez has a good shot if he fights smart which he knows how to do.
            I agree with this post my friend!!! In my opinion Martinez is going to be a more dangerous fight than cotto, ortiz, and Shane mosley. Martinez will bring in footwork, handspeed, length, size, and a good jab. I don't think he has 1 shot KO power though, but his power is decent. Even though cotto has a good jab he won't have the length to catch Floyd, which Floyd will keep him at bay and tag him all night.

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            • Originally posted by GRUSTLER View Post
              So 12 rds of no answers from Martinez makes them lose focus and don't stick to the game plan? BULL$H!T excuses. Do you even think about what you are saying before you write it? Floyd even gave props to Martinez for his style so stop it.
              I told you what made them lose focus : their lack of boxing ability. You think anybody has the skill to fight a disciplined fight for 12 rds? Have you heard of Zab Judah and Victor Ortiz? And those guys were world champs, Macklin and Barker are european level fighters.

              Originally posted by mathed View Post
              they say he is worried and confused and is only throwing one punch at a time.

              I don't hear them saying that when Mayweather is throwing one punch at a time though.
              They said the same thing about Floyd in the Baldomir, Hatton and Ortiz fights.

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              • Originally posted by Light_Speed View Post
                I told you what made them lose focus : their lack of boxing ability. You think anybody has the skill to fight a disciplined fight for 12 rds? Have you heard of Zab Judah and Victor Ortiz? And those guys were world champs, Macklin and Barker are european level fighters.


                They said the same thing about Floyd in the Baldomir, Hatton and Ortiz fights.
                Zab & Ortiz have a history of losing focus. Before they fought Floyd. Terrible example. Matter of fact Juadah lost to Baldomir right before he fought Floyd.

                European fighters rule the higher weight classes & are far more fundamentaly sound than domestic fighters currently. So talking about them like it's a bad thing is crazy.

                You're reaching right now & not really thinking about what you're saying. Bringing up Judah & Ortiz proves it. One quit because he didn't deserve to be hit back in a boxing match. The other never won a fight that matters, but those are your examples of Floyd making someone lose focus, wow.

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                • Floyd will pot shot and as a result im sure will tickle, i mean tag Sergio all night long. But all it takes is one shot, fighting bigger guys is dangerous for a reason.

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                  • sergio really don't move he can't go right at all. He just moves to his left to set up his right hand. If someone was to lead off with straight rights with speed they would catch him all day.Which is why i think floyd would beat him

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                    • Originally posted by Bushbaby View Post
                      Zab & Ortiz have a history of losing focus. Before they fought Floyd. Terrible example. Matter of fact Juadah lost to Baldomir right before he fought Floyd.

                      European fighters rule the higher weight classes & are far more fundamentaly sound than domestic fighters currently. So talking about them like it's a bad thing is crazy.

                      You're reaching right now & not really thinking about what you're saying. Bringing up Judah & Ortiz proves it. One quit because he didn't deserve to be hit back in a boxing match. The other never won a fight that matters, but those are your examples of Floyd making someone lose focus, wow.
                      You didn't understand my post, I'm saying not many fighters have the ability to maintain their focus and apply their gameplan for 12 rds, even guys who won titles like Zab and Ortiz so you're making my point.

                      I'm not badmouthing european fighters, I'm european. When I said "european level" I meant continental level, as in "not worldclass".

                      My examples of Floyd making someone lose focus? What?

                      I'm gonna clarify my point as much as possible :

                      Martinez beat Barker and Macklin because they lost their focus and got tired and he took advantage of it. He didn't do anything special, he didn't adjust. He fought the same way he always fights, in the early rounds his opponents were sharp and boxed well and then they got sloppy and made Martinez's job easier.

                      Why are people acting like fighters don't fade?

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