Comments Thread For: J. Mayweather: Floyd Would Tag Sergio Martinez All Night

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No Martinez wants his opponents to either come forward or stand still so he can tee off on them. If they don't wanna comply he has no answer, it's not until they lose their focus and don't stick to their gameplan that Martinez starts looking good. It takes a lot of discipline and stamina to employ a boxing strategy for all 12 rounds, Barker and Macklin couldn't do it because they're B level fighters, unlike Floyd.

I respect Martinez he's one of the best fighters in the world and he would have a puncher's chance against Floyd but I see him losing a clear decision.

Fighters who are KOing opponents back to back :

-Gennady Golovkin
-Roman Gonzalez
-Takashi Uchiyama
-Hernan Marquez
-Jhonny Gonzalez



Actually Ali did.

So why would they lose focus and don't stick to their game plan if Sergio Martinez doesn't have an answer?

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Martinez would be nowhere near the fastest guy Floyd ever fought. Neither would Pac (if they fought). Shane and Zab are both faster than Martinez and Pac. Martinez would however be the most "complete" package in terms of size, speed, power, and stance (southpaw) that could pose the most problems of the mentioned fighters for Floyd. Martinez's timing is more impressive than his speed imo. He's able to land his left at will even from early on, his sense of range is pretty impressive (Floyd is better, but he doesn't throw his lead as hard, and although it's lightning fast, Floyd CAN be timed and has been by Corley, Zab, and Shane). Martinez and Pac all, with the right judges, can outwork Floyd. It's only a matter of how badly they look in between the time they're pushing. The difference with Pac and Martinez is that I feel Martinez, because of his size, will be less easily discouraged when things don't go his way. There's also the effect of being a smaller fighter and being constantly tagged which makes you look bad. Because of Pac's style, when he's hit cleanly, he always looks off. But Martinez, because of his slickness, never really seems like he's doing bad since he seems to just glide around the ring with his hands down without a care in the world. Pac's best chance is early against Floyd, but it's basically out of the question for Pac to win on points if it goes that route without knockdowns...on the other hand, Martinez-Floyd gets more interesting (imo, of course) as it goes further in because of the hits Martinez will land. At one point, you have to realize, Mayweather WILL get hit (maybe not consecutively, or THAT often) and if it will catch up to him. Will this be like Meldrick Taylor vs Chavez (but on a bigger, more damaging scale with the questionable stoppage aside?) where one guy makes the other one look bad, but little by little the other guy is just getting busted up, one punch at a time? There's also the thought that to challenge Floyd, you need a good jab, and Martinez seems to have a heavy and accurate one that could pose a problem.


All the BS aside, Floyd is more skilled than both. Martinez is probably a smarter fighter than Pac (my opinion) not necessarily *better* and the size (which won't be all as much as it's cracked up to be, it's greatly exaggerated imo) MIGHT just be the thing that can put him over. Martinez will eat jabs all day, but I'm not sure if he'll eat as many rights, Floyd is too smart to expose himself to Martinez's go to punch with a constant lead right like with Ortiz. Martinez always moves to the sides as well and has a better sense of spacing than given credit for. Floyd's best punch will be his Jab or left hook against Martinez, not his right IMO.

I agree with the majority of your post but in my opinion, Sergio Martinez is a way better fighter than Manny Pacquiao and has a good technical fight game and can adjust in the ring while studying and breaking down his opponents. Mosley and Zab were and are not more of a boxer than Martinez. A true boxer can come from behind and win. Zab could never do that and Mosley against any fighter who could box and work the ring could not win. Can't believe how many people are trying to give Martinez crap when this guy is delivering. Floyd is the best technical boxer around but Martinez is a problem for him and if the fight ever happens, remember I'm the one who said it.

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Style wise its an easy fight for mayweather. Martinez size, power and stamina adds the challenge but I think Mayweather UD's him regardless of the weight they fight at and Mayweather needs to atleast face him at 154 but I think he can win at 160 and he has said he wants to go to 160 someday so why not get the linear title.

For the most part, when you get someone who has speed who fights with their hands low face someone who is more text book who also has speed the latter usually wins. The unorthodox guys dont know what to do when they dont have the speed advantage and are getting countered and they never developed a guard based defense.

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All these guys do is talk about how great Floyd is, what he'd do to all the top fighters, how he is second greatest to Ray Robinson, how they try and try to get Pacquiao in the ring, how he nearly knocked out a middleweight in camp, how he'd do this and that to Martinez, and on and in running their mouths, but they won't fight anyone unless they meet the criteria: old, past their prime, had too many wars, smaller in size and weight class, one dimensional, lead with your chin, inexperienced, or all of the above... It's called, "hand picking your opponent, the safest, least risky route to the bank". That's how the Mayweather Klan works. They won't fight anyone in their prime. Disgusting example of what a champion ought to look like. Certainly not in the same league as Robinson, Leonard, Hagler, Hearns, Duran, Arguello, Pryor, or Chavez. Floyd needs to grow a pair.

You just described Manny Pacquiao homie.

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Funny how everyone thinks Martinez is no problem for Mayweather but Floyd doesn't think so.....

"If Sergio Martinez can make 150, let’s make the fight happen. Like I said, there are no excuses," said Mayweather. "I’m a little different than other guys. He’s got a very, very impressive style. But like I said before, my main focus is a Manny Pacquiao fight."

http://******.craveonline.com/blog/1...otto-guerrero-

Fight should be at 154 but in no way did Floyd dismiss Martinez.

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So why would they lose focus and don't stick to their game plan if Sergio Martinez doesn't have an answer?

They dont understand boxing is a 12 round war of attrition , the fanboys write whole threads about a round that was competitive and then forget the means to an end , lots of empty heads on this site Grus that are frustrating to deal with because of their lack of boxing knowledge , its like trying to teach a 3 yr old the theory's of chess , these idiots in here dont understand the ring general side of boxing , the side of science , tactics and styles , they only know the in your face hay maker types because thats what they are , hay makers !

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So why would they lose focus and don't stick to their game plan if Sergio Martinez doesn't have an answer?

Because they're B level fighters, they don't have the discipline and the conditioning to execute a gameplan flawlessly for 12 rds.

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Because they're B level fighters, they don't have the discipline and the conditioning to execute a gameplan flawlessly for 12 rds.

So 12 rds of no answers from Martinez makes them lose focus and don't stick to the game plan? BULL$H!T excuses. Do you even think about what you are saying before you write it? Floyd even gave props to Martinez for his style so stop it.

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Let's get real. He would not go near Martinez until he shows his age. Fantasy fights with floyd is ******ed. Is Martinez more of a threat than Pac? **** yeah. Does that mean health is an issue? **** yeah.


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Any more of this is just ******. This fight won't happen. He wouldn't even fight Pac.

Sergio will have to commit to 30lb gloves, 147, 1% pay, and this again is after he shows his age.

If you say otherwise, you are delusional and obviously a ***** to think he is willing to fight Martinez.

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pure bs

Like Martinez is slow... or ******.