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  • jrosales13
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    #111
    The same thing that is wrong with the MW division is what's wrong with the HW division(except at HW they will duck the champ as well). That is contenders don't want to fight other contenders.

    Anyways it seems Pirog has been willing to fight most fighters out there. More so than the other guys are.

    And, I thought HBO was recently interested in a fight that proposed that he was involved in? It was against one the European top fighters can't remember who.

    And, too bad Showtime didn't want to pull the trigger on a New Years match up against Geale.

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    • Walt Liquor
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      #112
      I just read a little of this thread but did i miss that me made a million for some fight? Do tell.....

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      • DoktorSleepless
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        #113
        Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
        Where did Daz Barker and Matt Macklin make their names?

        How bout Sergei D?

        Stop with the excuses please.
        Dzinziruk and barker got the fight out of sheer luck . Pirog shouldn't rely on that. Dzinziruk got Sergio because HBO made that ****** decision to promise Garry Shaw a date for Dzi in order to make Bradley vs Alexander happen. And Dzinziruk had at least fought on Showtime before and had some decent wins over Joel Julio and Daniel Santos. He's been highly rated for a long time. While not optimal since he was a Jr middleweight champion, he's done more than Pirog. Barker got lucky because nobody else wanted to fight Sergio at the time. Macklin is rated #3 by Ring, ESPN, and #4 on the BoxingScene list. Especially with his performance with against Sturm, he deserves the shot.
        Last edited by DoktorSleepless; 02-03-2012, 05:26 PM.

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        • bojangles1987
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          #114
          Originally posted by jrosales13
          The same thing that is wrong with the MW division is what's wrong with the HW division(except at HW they will duck the champ as well). That is contenders don't want to fight other contenders.

          Anyways it seems Pirog has been willing to fight most fighters out there. More so than the other guys are.

          And, I thought HBO was recently interested in a fight that proposed that he was involved in? It was against one the European top fighters can't remember who.

          And, too bad Showtime didn't want to pull the trigger on a New Years match up against Geale.
          That's a perfect example of Pirog trying to make the fights he needs to, and having sh** luck doing so. It's just not happening for him.

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          • Kagami Taiga
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            #115
            Originally posted by bojangles1987
            When was the last fight that Floyd had on ESPN? Obviously a long time ago, but against who?
            if im not mistaken he fought emmanuel augustus on that ****ty ass ko nation, which, imo, is worse than espn.

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            • Kagami Taiga
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              #116
              Originally posted by Walt Liquor
              I just read a little of this thread but did i miss that me made a million for some fight? Do tell.....
              supposedly he grosses about a million per fight fighting in russia according to gab montoya. ask doktor sleepless to send u the links he has them

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              • jrosales13
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                #117
                Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                Dzinziruk and barker got the fight out of sheer luck . Pirog shouldn't rely on that. Dzinziruk got Sergio because HBO made that ****** decision to promise Garry Shaw a date for Dzi in order to make Bradley vs Alexander happen. And Dzinziruk had at least fought on Showtime before and had some decent wins over Joel Julio and Daniel Santos. He's been highly rated for a long time. While not optimal since he was a Jr middleweight champion, he's done more than Pirog. Barker got lucky because nobody else wanted to fight Sergio at the time. Macklin is rated #3 by Ring, ESPN, and #4 on the BoxingScene list. Especially with his performance with against Sturm, he deserves the shot.
                Pirog didn't want to fight him at that time?

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                • DoktorSleepless
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                  #118
                  Originally posted by jrosales13
                  Pirog didn't want to fight him at that time?
                  Pirog was blacklisted by HBO because of Al Hayman. While it may not be fair to Pirog, Barker was the only guy that Martinez could fight at the time.

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                  • Dirk Diggler UK
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by DoktorSleepless
                    Dzinziruk and barker got the fight out of sheer luck . Pirog shouldn't rely on that. Dzinziruk got Sergio because HBO made that ****** decision to promise Garry Shaw a date for Dzi in order to make Bradley vs Alexander happen. And Dzinziruk had at least fought on Showtime before and had some decent wins over Joel Julio and Daniel Santos. He's been highly rated for a long time. While not optimal since he was a Jr middleweight champion, he's done more than Pirog. Barker got lucky because nobody else wanted to fight Sergio at the time. Macklin is rated #3 by Ring, ESPN, and #4 on the BoxingScene list. Especially with his performance with against Sturm, he deserves the shot.
                    They got the fight because they were less risky.

                    Just be honest with yourself.

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                    • The Gambler1981
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by Walt Liquor
                      I just read a little of this thread but did i miss that me made a million for some fight? Do tell.....
                      He makes good money in Russia apparently, I don't know that for a fact but it does get said a lot.

                      You would think for a guy that can make that sort of money he could draw a couple decent fighters to face him in Russia, not the top guys but solid guys that would allow him to make a name for himself to the point where he could actually start making some claims.

                      I don't care if he fight in America or not, but he could fight and beat solid oppostion in Russia as long as he is doing it well. It still might not lead to him getting Sergio or whoever the top guy is but at least his claims would carry weight and hardcore fans can really form a legit opinion of him.

                      As for us agreeing, it has happened before and it will probably happen again, I have lots of opinion just not all of them are popular, but a lot of them get discussed

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