Comments Thread For: Pirog Waits for the Champs, Considers Possible Retirement

[b0ndsj0ns20]

Its amazing. Sergio is my favourite fighter outside the uk but Im defending him in the Cotto thread and criticising him in this lol. Some people's hypocrisy and excuses are laughable.

I don't think I was quoting you in that post, but I don't need to make excuses for Martinez. He's fighting the #3 ranked MW according to the ring. A guy who dominated Sturm. That's not ducking anyone. I also like Pirog, but he's gotta fight someone else in America. HBO should pick up a Lara-Pirog fight. I'd be pumped for it. I think Lara wins, but I'd be excited to watch it.

[bojangles1987]

doesnt matter, the euro mws aint gonna fight him in russia either. unless ur talking about golovkin. the point is, hes not gonna get on hbo or showtime fighting in russia, its not gonna happen. he doesnt have the muscle and he doesnt have the fanbase. he needs to fight on american tv. or at least on primetime or one of the uk networks.

i mean seriously most euro fighters who wanna make it big know this. but apparently, no1 on this site gets it.

He has tried though, that's the point, and HBO has basically told him to f*** off. He has tried to get fights with other titleholders, only to be told it's not worth the money, f*** off. So he is making the effort, and the response every time has been "F*** off" pretty much.

He's not hiding in Russia, he can't get a fight anywhere else.

[Kagami Taiga]

Where did Daz Barker and Matt Macklin make their names?

How bout Sergei D?

Stop with the excuses please.

u seem to think im defending martinez? ive never even mentioned him. my topic is strictly pirog and the whining u ppl do for him. theres no reason to feel sorry the guy. blame the russian network that pays him a million dollars to fight over there.

[vacon04]

Ok, lets say I accept that fairy tale as fact. What about the other two?

Well I think that Dzinziruk wasn't as bad as people are saying it was. He had a few title defenses at 154 and was undefeated. Also let's remember that Sergio was going to fight Zbik to regain his title but HBO didn't accept that fight. I still think that Dzinziruk could make a good fight against some of the top 10 of 154 for example Canelo or Kirkland.

About Barker I agree, Barker wasn't as good when it comes to merits, he had a few fights against decent opposition and that's all. At the end Barker proved to be better than most people expected him to be, but he wasn't at the level of Sergio that's for sure.

[immortal tech]

What does being a main event fighter have to do with anything? I dont think he ever stated he has to be main event. If he got the Sergio fight, then yeh it would naturally be the main event. But he's willing to fight Lara on HBO which probably wouldnt be a main event.

Why so many excuses

he would have to make ESPN type of money to fight on the undercard how much did he make to fight Jacobs? doubt it was anywhere near 100K

[DoktorSleepless]

How can you build a name when nobody will fight you?!

Instead of fighting nobodies in Russia, fight nobodies on ESPN! He could beat the **** out Golovkin in Russian TV, but in terms of building his name to an American audience, that still wouldn't help him as much as fighting a nobody on ESPN. He just said it himself. He doesn't need the money. He's willing to retire right now because he's well off. If that's true, take the paycut and fight on ESPN until HBO and Showtime is more willing to take a chance on him.

Hopefully that Barker vs Pirog fight they're talking about does go through on HBO, but I wouldn't keep my hopes up. Showtime ended up passing on Pirog vs Geale for a reason.

[Kagami Taiga]

He has tried though, that's the point, and HBO has basically told him to f*** off. He has tried to get fights with other titleholders, only to be told it's not worth the money, f*** off. So he is making the effort, and the response every time has been "F*** off" pretty much.

He's not hiding in Russia, he can't get a fight anywhere else.

he tried. hbo is not the only american network. he had chances to fight on espn, he told them to **** off. he tried? please, hes really not trying that hard. like i said, this is nothing new and there are ppl who had it much worse than pirog. like winky wright for instance.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

u seem to think im defending martinez? ive never even mentioned him. my topic is strictly pirog and the whining u ppl do for him. theres no reason to feel sorry the guy. blame the russian network that pays him a million dollars to fight over there.

Well Martinez is directly involved because hes the MW Champ and he refuses to fight him. Well at least DiBella does.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Well I think that Dzinziruk wasn't as bad as people are saying it was. He had a few title defenses at 154 and was undefeated. Also let's remember that Sergio was going to fight Zbik to regain his title but HBO didn't accept that fight. I still think that Dzinziruk could make a good fight against some of the top 10 of 154 for example Canelo or Kirkland.

About Barker I agree, Barker wasn't as good when it comes to merits, he had a few fights against decent opposition and that's all. At the end Barker proved to be better than most people expected him to be, but he wasn't at the level of Sergio that's for sure.

So yeah they did even less than Pirog at 160. So I dont know why people act like Pirog is not worthy of fighting Sergio.

The only reason he isn't is because DiBella sees it as too big a risk for not enough reward. Lets be real here.

Which is exactly the reason Cotto/Floyd/Pac wont fight Sergio. So it comes across as very hypocritical

[bojangles1987]

he tried. hbo is not the only american network. he had chances to fight on espn, he told them to **** off. he tried? please, hes really not trying that hard. like i said, this is nothing new and there are ppl who had it much worse than pirog. like winky wright for instance.

Because as already said, what's the point in fighting someone on ESPN for crap when he can fight the same type of fighter in Russia for more?

He wants titleholders, because he is one, and cannot get any of them.