Cotto has a good chance of beating mayweather!

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  • tomhawq
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    #101
    Originally posted by hugh grant
    Cotto would have a chance of beating Floyd, just like SSM was believed to have a good chance. Not because either SSM or Cotto are rated so damn highly, but rather because people think Floyd is not so great and is overated.
    yep. floyd is not all that. exact reason why he avoided all these fighters. cotto would be a smarter biker than floyd on this fight.

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    • GrandpaBernard
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      #102
      Originally posted by akScoundrel
      It was the volume of punches that did cotto over in those two fights. Mayweather is not a volume puncher.

      Cotto is a better jabber, period. Mayweather would do better in lead right hands, its phenominally good, but jab, nope hes not a better jabber.

      Who has mayweather fought that jabs better than cotto? Judah jabbed mayweather fairly well, and cotto completely outjabbed him.

      And i would way rather mayweather jab to the body than his lead right hands. You're acting like cotto doesnt have a decent counter hook either.

      I have a feeling mayweather would try and stand toe to toe, right in front of cotto. That doesnt bode well for him imo, as he will be touched. Cotto just has to be smart about it, and trained well. Acting like mayweather cant be touched now huh? A gunshy mosley could touch him...
      Mosley had Cotto on his bike and holding on for dear life not to engage. Miguel Cotto is the same person who admit coming home to kiss his son is more important than winning the fight. His will is clearly breakable as he admit to us and has proven throughout all the times he was in survival mode in his career. pacman eased up on the volume in the 10th and 11th round of their fight, Miguel Cotto was still dancing for survival.

      lol at Mayweather not being a better jabber. Mayweather's jab to the body will go down in the books as an ATG punch. Miguel Cotto's jab is will be forgotten.

      Oscar de La Hoya has a better jab than Cotto. Oscar de La Hoya has a better hook than Cotto and still couldn't do **** about Mayweather's jab to the body. Marquez who is one of the best counter-punchers in the modern era and better than Cotto at it ate sticks to the pit all night and couldn't stop it with no counter hook.

      you still a beginna ock

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      • jazluvr
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        #103
        Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
        Mayweather throws very sharp punches with plenty of snap behind em. A stoppage is possible since Cotto's face wouldn't hold up.
        I mean i don't think Floyd can knock him out, or even knock him on his ass flat out on the canvas. Floyd isn't a power puncher and Cotto's chin is still pretty good, though his face does get marked up...2 very defferent things.

        I would bet that Floyd don't ko Cotto "knock him on his ass ko", not just gloves touching the canvas. I'm not so sure Floyd can "stop" Cotto". though i know Cotto won't win the fight by any means.
        Last edited by jazluvr; 01-27-2012, 07:40 PM.

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        • PrinceCharlez
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          #104
          Originally posted by pacfan
          yep. floyd is not all that. exact reason why he avoided all these fighters. cotto would be a smarter biker than floyd on this fight.

          This is a typical ******* COMMENT...

          If anyone knows boxing they know that floyd has fought a top rank fighters since he was WITH TOP RANK. Thats why he hasnt fought clottey, margarito, cotto, or pacquiao. And that thus explains why manny has and is probably bout to fight another top rank fighter BRADLEY....Floyd isnt ducking them. Bob just wants to keep all the money. It gets old explaining this to *******s because they have **** for brains.

          Cotto was an exciting fighter, but has to be one of the worse technical fighters i've seen in a LONG time. Honestly i dont see how the guy made it this far. He has poor foot work, horrible defense, bad endurance, he jumps forward when throwing punches instead of keeping his ground, breaks under pressure, and he can't keep a trainer. The only fight that cotto REALLY looked good in was against zab and everyone knows what kind of heart zab has.....Up to that fight, cotto was getting wobbled, staggered, did the chicken dance...

          floyd will stop cotto at 154 and 147 EASY!

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          • GrandpaBernard
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            #105
            Originally posted by jazluvr
            I mean i don't think Floyd can knock him out, or even knock him on his ass flat out on the canvas. Floyd isn't a power puncher and Cotto's chin is still pretty good, though his face does get marked up...2 very defferent things.

            I would bet that Floyd don't ko Cotto "knock him on his ass ko", not just gloves touching the canvas. I'm not so sure Floyd can "stop" Cotto". though i know Cotto won't win the fight by any means.
            Agreed

            Cotto has a solid chin, and Mayweather wouldn't knock him flat on his ass if he was to stop him.

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            • cornholioda3rd
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              #106
              Mayweather by wide ud. Cotto stans are as bad as Margarito stans.

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                #107
                Originally posted by akScoundrel
                Obviously nobody is gonna outskill mayweather, but i believe he can be outwilled. I dont see mayweather having what it takes to take cotto out of the fight, i.e. cotto is gonna keep coming. Cotto would do a huge disservice to himself to not focus on mayweathers body, especially when mayweather is against the ropes. When he is on the ropes, he is usually more focused on rolling from head shots, and his body is pretty open. Focus on the body, and the head will open up. Cottos jab will also cause problems for mayweather.

                Cotto would be mayweathers toughest/most credible opponent to date. In no way should we accept 'he is pacs leftovers' bit. This is a sport, in which the best fight the best. If mayweather doesnt fight him, he's scurred.

                I see this fight playing out like the judah-cotto fight, with cotto slowly waring out mayweather, and still coming.



                Pacquaio's left overs no thank you..... NEXT!

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                  #108
                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  Mosley had Cotto on his bike and holding on for dear life not to engage.



                  Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                  lol at Mayweather not being a better jabber. Mayweather's jab to the body will go down in the books as an ATG punch. Miguel Cotto's jab is will be forgotten.
                  And again, how about no.

                  Lol at mosley having cotto on his bike. If anybody got on a bike, it was mosley halfway through the fight. Though i think a better term would be he got on his pony. Cotto did drop in intensity in a couple of rounds around the 9th or tenth, but came back strong.

                  And while we are at it, 07 mosley was way better than the gunshy mosley that floyd fought, the one that hurt floyd.

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                  • GrandpaBernard
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                    #109
                    Originally posted by akScoundrel





                    And again, how about no.

                    Lol at mosley having cotto on his bike. If anybody got on a bike, it was mosley halfway through the fight. Though i think a better term would be he got on his pony. Cotto did drop in intensity in a couple of rounds around the 9th or tenth, but came back strong.

                    And while we are at it, 07 mosley was way better than the gunshy mosley that floyd fought, the one that hurt floyd.
                    where was this amazing Miguel Cotto counter hook you speak of when pacquiao was sticking it to him downstairs with that left? The difference is that Mayweather's left to the body would get there even faster since it has less distance to travel being thrown from his lead hand and Floyd has very long arms, making it even harder to counter. Cotto couldn't stop a slower left down low that needed to travel farther than a jab.

                    Cotto couldn't figure out how to dominantly beat Mosley while Mayweather did. This reflects on Cotto considering how Mosley was his best win.
                    Last edited by GrandpaBernard; 01-27-2012, 08:04 PM.

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by GrandpaBernard
                      where was this amazing Miguel Cotto counter hook you speak of when pacquiao was sticking it to him downstairs with that left? The difference is that Mayweather's left to the body would get there even faster since it has less distance to travel being thrown from his lead hand and Floyd has very long arms

                      Cotto couldn't figure out how to dominantly beat Mosley while Mayweather did. This reflects on Cotto considering how Mosley was his best win.
                      Oh, so we are acting like it was mannys body work that did cotto in now? mosley hit cotto in the body harder, more often. And manny did catch some check left hooks, tho it ultimately didnt matter. Mayweather aint hurting cotto with a jab to the body, lets just get that fantasy over with. Im not saying mayweather doesnt have a good jab, he does, he has an even better lead right, and as such he uses it more often. Cotto's jab is fast enough, his timing is superior and throws it at ackward times, and has authority on it.

                      His jab will give mayweather problems. If cotto doesnt get any other punch working, then i do believe mayweather can adjust to the jab. But if cotto brings his right hand, body work, uppercuts, etc, than it will be even more difficult.

                      I dont know why you keep bringing up mosley. The mosley that cotto fought still had some left in the tank was alot better than the mosley that mayweather fought. 07 mosley wasnt gunshy. The mosley that mayweather fought was gunshy, tho when he did throw, buckled mayweather.

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