If Cotto beats Pacquiao does he ranked above Mayweather?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #71
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Mosley 8 defenses, all by KO.
    Diaz 6 defenses

    Castillo two reigns only 5 defense
    Andddddd, this means what exactly?

    Do you rank Virgil Hill #1 at Light Heavyweight? He has 20+ Title defences.

    That's more than Ezzard Charles, Billy Conn, Harold Johnson, Bob Foster and the list goes on.

    Do you rank him above those fighters at Light Heavyweight? No, of course you don't. It doesn't fit your moronic agenda.

    Mosley's resume is piss poor at Lightweight and pales in comparison to Castillo's - Fact.

    As does Juan Diaz's and as does almost anyone of the last era.

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      #72
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
      So? I mean, how many defenses Chris John got, or Felix Sturm? It means absolutely nothing if your not facing tough opposition. I'm not saying Diaz wasn't, or Marquez and Mosley (Mosley definitely wasn't) but Castillo clearly fought the better opposition.
      Molsey and Diaz did not avoid anyone. Mosley was super dominant.

      Clearly, definitely not the case. Mosley and Marquez are unbeaten at the weight, not even close to being beating. Marquez does need a couple for fights at the division though.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Libra_Por_Libra
        Hold on... Clottey vs. Cotto and Cotto vs. Mosley were two close fights. And some people might even say Mosley and Clottey beat Cotto. Floyd did a better job against Mosley than Cotto. He left nothing on the table, dominated Mosley after the 2nd round, and showed everyone he can be the aggressive fighter and make his opponent back down.
        You can't even compare Mosley from 2007 to Mosley from 2010

        That is so laughable. Anyone can be aggressive against someone who no longer has the capability to throw anymore punches. Mosley blew his load after just two rounds. I mean the Mayorga that Cotto fought had more life in him than Mosley did against Mayweather. Real talk

        And looking objectively, I think you'd be hard pressed to say Mosley beat Cotto. I think its clear that Cotto made it clear who the winner was, especially when the losing boxer believes he lost. At most, he won 5 rounds. To say he won 7 or more rounds showcases a clear bias.

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          #74
          Originally posted by IronDanHamza
          How on Earth is Shane Mosley a better Lightweight than Jose Luis Castillo?

          Castillo is without question a better Lightweight than Shane Mosley who only fought 2 or 3 ranked fighters at Lightweight.

          Juan Diaz better than Castillo?

          Get a clue.

          Jose Luis Castillo is one of the Premier Lightweight's of this era.
          Been sitting reading this and there are a lot of comments i dont an do agree with but Mosely at lightweight is one of the best i have ever seen. He was a beast... Epic Fail.... Cotto has a solid resume over his full career.. Floyd's resume is patchy and stop start.. *****'s claim him to be the greatest and when aked what he has done in the last 6 years they revert to his days at lighter weights.. Im sorry. Floyd is a great fighter and one of the best i have ever seen but his resume SHOULD be better than it is.. Cotto's over the span of a career has a more solid resume and Floyd has the better skills

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            #75
            Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
            So? I mean, how many defenses Chris John got, or Felix Sturm? It means absolutely nothing if your not facing tough opposition. I'm not saying Diaz wasn't, or Marquez and Mosley (Mosley definitely wasn't) but Castillo clearly fought the better opposition.
            Chris John is ranked #1 at Featherweight and definitely above both Pep and Armstrong because he was more Title Defences than them combined.

            Duh.

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              #76
              Originally posted by D4thincarnation
              Molsey and Diaz did not avoid anyone. Mosley was super dominant.

              Clearly, definitely not the case. Mosley and Marquez are unbeaten at the weight, not even close to being beating. Marquez does need a couple for fights at the division though.
              Honestly I don't see how a case could be made for those guys, but Mosley, especially Mosley...that dude shouldn't even be in this discussion. He did absolutely nothing at LW, I do think he looked beastly but the opposition was weak.

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                #77
                Originally posted by da_beast
                Been sitting reading this and there are a lot of comments i dont an do agree with but Mosely at lightweight is one of the best i have ever seen. He was a beast... Epic Fail.... Cotto has a solid resume over his full career.. Floyd's resume is patchy and stop start.. *****'s claim him to be the greatest and when aked what he has done in the last 6 years they revert to his days at lighter weights.. Im sorry. Floyd is a great fighter and one of the best i have ever seen but his resume SHOULD be better than it is.. Cotto's over the span of a career has a more solid resume and Floyd has the better skills
                Then you have not seen many Lightweights.

                What do you base Mosley being the best Lightweight you have ever seen off? Beating actual bums?

                Shane Mosley literally fought 2 or 3 ranked fighters at Lightweight. His resume at the weight is beyond a joke.

                Cotto has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by $ j-210 $
                  for the record mosley would beat castillo at light weight
                  By KO.

                  I think Marquez would beat him too.

                  Juan Diaz could take a decision if he doesn't get cut.

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                  • da_beast
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                    Then you have not seen many Lightweights.

                    What do you base Mosley being the best Lightweight you have ever seen off? Beating actual bums?

                    Shane Mosley literally fought 2 or 3 ranked fighters at Lightweight. His resume at the weight is beyond a joke.

                    Cotto has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather?
                    I sais BEAST mate not best.

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                      #80
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy
                      Honestly I don't see how a case could be made for those guys, but Mosley, especially Mosley...that dude shouldn't even be in this discussion. He did absolutely nothing at LW, I do think he looked beastly but the opposition was weak.
                      Kinda like Tyson in the late 80s.

                      Not Mosley's fault there was no great competition around but the fights he did have against ranked contenders he destroyed.

                      If you were making your lightweight list of this century would you have Mosley above Castillo?

                      I definitely would.

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