If Cotto beats Pacquiao does he ranked above Mayweather?

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  • IronDanHamza
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    #101
    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
    Holyfield might disagree with you.
    Oh, right, because Evander Holyfield was at Heavyweight when Tyson was the King of the Heavyweight Division.

    Oh look, there's another reason why Tyson's Heavyweight Reign and Mosley's Lightweight reign are incomparable. Mike Tyson was actually the Champion of his Division.

    Mike Tyson actually beat more than 2 ranked fighters in his division.

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    • jrosales13
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      #102
      At LW Castillo was greater than Mosley. Just look at their resume. There's nothing else that needs to be said.

      And, I fail to see the argument of Mosley being a beast or one of the best at LW. Because, neither Cotto nor Floyd fought him at LW.

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      • daggum
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        #103
        Originally posted by Brother Jay
        This is the same ole peasant 3rd world math that continues on these boards.

        Mayweather is rated above Pacquiao.

        That is a FACT.

        you aren't allowed to use the word fact for a 6 month learning period. after that period is up we will stop and review to see if you have learned the meaning of the word.

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        • Rocky Rode
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          #104
          Cotto won a bunch of vacant belts. The first non vacant belt he won was against a one legged feather fisted boxer. He had extremely close fights with Mosley and Clottey. His resume does not compare to Floyd's. Atleast Floyd beat Champions when he won his belts.

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            #105
            Originally posted by Rocky Rode
            Cotto won a bunch of vacant belts. The first non vacant belt he won was against a one legged feather fisted boxer. He had extremely close fights with Mosley and Clottey. His resume does not compare to Floyd's. Atleast Floyd beat Champions when he won his belts.
            The whole Cotto won vacant belts is overrated. If you beat a solid to good opponent for a vacant belt is better than beating a journeyman who has a title. And, not only that is what you do and who you defend the title against is more important than who you beat or if you won it vacantly or not.

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              #106
              Originally posted by jrosales13
              What 2 HOF'ers did Floyd beat and what HOF'er did Cotto beat?

              In the blue are you insinuating JMM? So Floyd got JMM as a HOF'er and who else? And, who does Cotto have?
              I think it is obvious who he is talking about and he will be a HOF fighter.

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                #107
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                At LW Castillo was greater than Mosley. Just look at their resume. There's nothing else that needs to be said.

                And, I fail to see the argument of Mosley being a beast or one of the best at LW. Because, neither Cotto nor Floyd fought him at LW.
                But, but, but, but, but Mosley has 8 Title defences! EIGHT!

                That means he's greater by default. Doesn't it?

                That's what I thought when I had Chris John above Henry Armstrong on my 126 list.

                And Virgil Hill above Ezzard Charles on my 175 list.

                And Felix Sturm above Jake Lamotta on my 160 list.

                Title defences>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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                  #108
                  wait a minute, Cotto never fought somebody with the caliber like Josie Harris.

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                    #109
                    Originally posted by D4thincarnation
                    I think it is obvious who he is talking about and he will be a HOF fighter.
                    Who is he talking about? Mosley? How can you count Mosley and not count Oscar? Is he talking about Oscar and not Mosley? Then if so what HOF'er has Cotto beaten? Margarito? GTFOH if that's the case. Tell me ****** who's obvious pick that he's talking about?

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                      #110
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      But, but, but, but, but Mosley has 8 Title defences! EIGHT!

                      That means he's greater by default. Doesn't it?

                      That's what I thought when I had Chris John above Henry Armstrong on my 126 list.

                      And Virgil Hill above Ezzard Charles on my 175 list.

                      And Felix Sturm above Jake Lamotta on my 160 list.

                      Title defences>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

                      I remember thinking wow beating the John John Molina and Phillip Holidays of the World...That's amazing.

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