Is Mayweather the most well-rounded fighter ever?

[4Corners]

And unlike Floyd, prime Ali let his hands go.

But Floyd lands far more than 5 punches a round man??? Mayweather is more along the lines of Whitaker, where as Leonard was more along the lines of Ali.

Mayweather and Whitaker are probably the Top 2 defenses of all-time, to me at least.

Mayweather counters at will, but I just still got Ali in his prime over anyone.

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

who then IS the most well rounded of all time?

prime jones?

jones was just athletic he was just a beast his technical skills were not the best

floyd is top 3 most well wounded imo

[nicamarvin]

Something he should do more often. He could have ko'd Mosley any time after like the sixth round. I think he was just a little leery of Mosley's huge punching power. He could have easily stopped Marquez as well, had he stepped on the gas pedal. And neither of those two have been stopped, despite being in there with some huge punchers throughout their careers.

Floyd is extremely well-rounded. My only knock on him, is that he doesn't let his hands go more. He opts for the pot-shot approach a little too much for me. If he fought everyone the way he fought Gatti, he'd EASILY be the ATG.

He is EASILY the ATG...

[The_Sandman]

Nope. If you land 5 punches and your opponent lands none then neither of you did enough to win the round. This isn't the amateurs. And in those situation judges frequently would score the round for the guy who was at least trying to score punches.....not for the dude who took a landed a couple of pot shots and called it a day.

Poet

I edited my post up there. Read it again.

If you throw less but land more effectively than your opponent, than isn't that a sign of good offense? Focus on the word effectively.

[The Gambler1981]

Nope. If you land 5 punches and your opponent lands none then neither of you did enough to win the round. This isn't the amateurs. And in those situation judges frequently would score the round for the guy who was at least trying to score punches.....not for the dude who took a landed a couple of pot shots and called it a day.

Poet

That is a terrible way to judge, either a guy is effective or he isn't~

Trying isn't being effective so it does not matter.

Accomplishing something is better than accomplishing nothing in a round.

Scoring fights is about effectiveness, if you can't overlook style your insights on judging are beyond meaningless.

[Vadrigar.]

Sugar Ray leoanrd is probably more all rounded then Mayweather. He did everything really well, whereas Floyd is a mainly defensive fighter.

[Poet682006]

But Floyd lands far more than 5 punches a round man??? Mayweather is more along the lines of Whitaker, where as Leonard was more along the lines of Ali.

Mayweather and Whitaker are probably the Top 2 defenses of all-time, to me at least.

Mayweather counters at will, but I just still got Ali in his prime over anyone.

The difference between Floyd and Pernell: Whitaker made dudes miss without sacrificing his own offense; Whitaker let his hands go. Floyd makes people miss while buttoning up and not throwing very much.

Poet

[12TRIBEsRiSe]

he's so good at not getting hit that 38 going on 39 in a couple of months and 1 year and a half inactive shane mosley almost KHTFO.

you *****s are utterly repugnant.

let a grown 45 year old ex professional boxer who is around your weight land a flush punch on you or any man his size at that fact n lets see what happens... dumb argument

[The Big Dunn]

This isn't the amateurs. The object isn't to end the round landing one more punch than you opponent.

What is the object? WInning correct. At the lower weights floyd had everything. WHat he lacks now is a product of his move up in weight.

[Javii86]

All down to defense really. His opponents arent scoring with their punches because of his defense. When you go all out to attack you will be open to counters. Cos FLoyd makes no effort to attack and be offensive it isnt relevant in Floyds case.

He still lands at an above average rate though while throwing at a below average rate.